Newton's Law of Cooling of coffee

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The discussion revolves around applying Newton's Law of Cooling to determine the temperature of coffee after 10 minutes in a room at 70°F. The equation f(t) = (T0 - T1)e^(-kt) + T1 is presented, where T0 is the initial temperature of the coffee, T1 is the room temperature, and k is a constant. A participant expresses confusion over the lack of data to solve for k, which is necessary to compute the coffee's temperature after the specified time. Another contributor confirms that without knowing either k or the temperature at a later time, the problem cannot be solved. The consensus is that additional information is needed to proceed with the calculations.
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Homework Statement


Suppose that a cup of hot coffee at a temperature of 1850 is set down to cool in a room where the temperature is kept at 700. What is the temperature of the coffee 10 minutes later?


Homework Equations


f(t)=(T0 - T1))e-kt + T1
where T0 is the initial temperature of the coffee,
T1 is the temperature of the room,
f(t) is the temperature of the coffee after t minutes,
k is a negative constant

The Attempt at a Solution


I am studying precalculus independently. This problem is from Cohen, Precalculus with Unit-Circle Trigonometry, 4th ed.

The problem statement doesn't seem to give enough data to solve it. I can't figure out how to find k in order to find f(t). Is there a technique I'm not seeing?

I've gotten this far:
f(10)=(185-70)e-k10+70
f(10)=115e-10k+70




 
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ajr246 said:

Homework Statement


Suppose that a cup of hot coffee at a temperature of 1850 is set down to cool in a room where the temperature is kept at 700. What is the temperature of the coffee 10 minutes later?


Homework Equations


f(t)=(T0 - T1))e-kt + T1
where T0 is the initial temperature of the coffee,
T1 is the temperature of the room,
f(t) is the temperature of the coffee after t minutes,
k is a negative constant

The Attempt at a Solution


I am studying precalculus independently. This problem is from Cohen, Precalculus with Unit-Circle Trigonometry, 4th ed.

The problem statement doesn't seem to give enough data to solve it. I can't figure out how to find k in order to find f(t). Is there a technique I'm not seeing?

I've gotten this far:
f(10)=(185-70)e-k10+70
f(10)=115e-10k+70
You're right. Since you do not know either k or Q you cannot solve that equation for either one. I suspect that you have copied the problem incorrectly. You have to be given the temperature initially and at some other time in order to find k. Then you can find the temperature for any t.
 
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Since ##px^9+q## is the factor, then ##x^9=\frac{-q}{p}## will be one of the roots. Let ##f(x)=27x^{18}+bx^9+70##, then: $$27\left(\frac{-q}{p}\right)^2+b\left(\frac{-q}{p}\right)+70=0$$ $$b=27 \frac{q}{p}+70 \frac{p}{q}$$ $$b=\frac{27q^2+70p^2}{pq}$$ From this expression, it looks like there is no greatest value of ##b## because increasing the value of ##p## and ##q## will also increase the value of ##b##. How to find the greatest value of ##b##? Thanks
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