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No More Lyrics For You

  1. Dec 10, 2005 #1

    dduardo

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    It looks like the music industry is on the rampage again. Now they don't want you getting lyrics online. Not only that, but they want to jail website owners for posting them.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4508158.stm
     
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  3. Dec 10, 2005 #2

    Astronuc

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    Well one can buy the song and write the lyrics for personal use.

    Afterall, music is a business. The lyrics, music and songs/tunes are copyrighted and are considered property.

    Technically, one may copy for personal use, but one cannot legally distribute the music or lyrics, and technically an artist may not perform a copyrighted work without expressed permission from the copyright owner.

    It's about MONEY!
     
  4. Dec 10, 2005 #3
    It looks like they're much more concerned about the sheet music, which usually includes the lyrics of course. I'm not sure this is going to really get to sites where you can look lyrics up just cause you're trying to figure out what they're saying.

    It will be sad if it does, though. It would make me feel like they're on the verge of suing any unlicensed person who hums the tune in the presence of someone else.
     
  5. Dec 10, 2005 #4
    Soon it will get to the point where even unlicensed singers who happen to sing a copyrighted song will be fined or sent to jail. In order to sing any copyrighted song, first must have to pay royalties to the recording company.

    Why does it seem like these recording companies are becoming more and more rabid? What's next, life imprisonment for ownership of copyrighted songs? :bugeye:
     
  6. Dec 10, 2005 #5

    Astronuc

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    One can sing to oneself or others, but one cannot charge money. Seriously, I know several professional performers, and they will not sing another artist's songs without permission.
     
  7. Dec 10, 2005 #6

    matthyaouw

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    But where is the money? As far as I'm aware, record companies don't offer any way of paying to obtain lyrics. The odd music score exists, but these are few and far between from what I've seen.
     
  8. Dec 10, 2005 #7

    Astronuc

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    Well presumably, once 'free' lyrics sites are shutdown, they will be replaced by websites for which one pays for lyrics, e.g. Apples I-tunes, where one can buy any song/tune for $0.99.
     
  9. Dec 10, 2005 #8
    Paying for lyrics? Geeze, whatever happened to including the lyrics in the little booklet.
     
  10. Dec 10, 2005 #9

    Danger

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    Up here (and I thought that it applied in the US as well), the musicians' organization (not quite a union) pays the copyright holders on behalf of the people who perform cover tunes, who in turn pay through their dues. I have no idea what formulae are used to govern distribution of payment.
     
  11. Dec 10, 2005 #10
    Exactly. You might not believe it, but I hardly have any copied CD's (hopefully I won't get sued for saying that;). The main reason why I like to buy original CD's are the cases and booklets. Sadly, musicians tend to forget the importance of those.
     
  12. Dec 10, 2005 #11

    dduardo

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    When you buy music online there is no booklet and thus no lyrics. What do they expect people to do? Go to Sam Ash and get a hold of the sheet music? What happens if there is none?
     
  13. Dec 10, 2005 #12

    Moonbear

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    Even when you get the CDs, they don't include the lyrics anymore. They're out of their tree if they think people are going to pay for lyrics though. I've looked up lyrics online from time to time, usually for one of two reasons; 1) I own the song and like it and want to sing along, but can't understand a few phrases and want to check what they are, or 2) I heard a song on the radio and am trying to find the name of it, so search lyrics for the phrases I recall to check the name so I can buy it. In the first case, if I can't get the lyrics, no big deal, I'll live without them if they think they're going to try selling them to me (what other reason would there be to not allow people to put up free lyrics online?) In the second case, they're only shooting themselves in the foot...if I can't search lyrics to find the name of the song, I sure won't be able to buy it either, and if I like a song enough to look it up using the lyrics, it's because I want to buy it.
     
  14. Dec 10, 2005 #13

    Evo

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    I think it would be ridiculous to shut down sites that have lyrics. They aren't playing the songs, there is no music. It's nice to know what the singer is saying, which a lot of times you can't tell by listening. One of my favorite mis-heard lyrics is a Jimmie Hendricks song "scuse me while I kiss this guy". :biggrin:

    Here are some other goodies.

    Led Zeppelin "Stairway to Heaven"

    Wrong - And there's a wino down the road, I should've stole his Oreos

    Right - And as we wind on down the road, Our shadows taller than our souls

    Bachman Turner Overdrive "Takin' Care of Business"

    Wrong - Bakin' carrot biscuits

    Right - Takin' care of business

    Clash "Rock the Casbah"

    Wrong - Sherry don't like it, rock the catbox

    Right - The Sharif don't like it, rock the Casbah

    Beatles "Ticket to Ride"

    Wrong - She's got a chicken to ride

    Right - She's got a ticket to ride

    More here http://www.rareexception.com/Garden/Misinterpreted/Lyrics.php
     
  15. Dec 10, 2005 #14

    Astronuc

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    :rofl: :rofl: I almost fell off the chair. Good think I wasn't drinking at the time. :rofl:
     
  16. Dec 10, 2005 #15
    Mammaries, lick the corner of my mouth.
    Mister where'd you get those mammaries

    don't know the right lyrics
     
  17. Dec 10, 2005 #16
    Astronuc that's twice you've jumped ahead of me while I was writing. You need to let me know where you are going next, cause I'm not putting up with it all night.
     
  18. Dec 10, 2005 #17

    Astronuc

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    I didn't know you were into riding chicken's trib. :rofl:

    Or sleeping habits.
     
  19. Dec 11, 2005 #18
    I think a while back some musicians used to purposefully add lyrics that sounded like two different phrases so they could get one over on the censors.


    Also these copyright laws are becoming rediculous. They're no longer what they were meant to be. They've gone from a means of rewarding people for their contributions to society to a means for corporations to extort people.
     
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