Normal matrix that isn't diagonalizable; counterexample?

In summary: I looked it up on Wikipedia, and it is called adjunct matrix there, with a link to adjugate matrix, which is... the transpose of the cofactor matrix, which I'm not sure I've ever really used.For me, the most natural name is transpose of cofactor matrix, and if I want to go one step further, it is the transpose of the adjugate of the matrix. I have never felt a need to name the matrix itself, except in as much as you could say "Such-and-such a matrix is the adjoint matrix for this matrix", in which case I'd be using it as an adjective. I think adjunct matrix is a bad name, because I already have two names for the same thing
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I've been reading that the diagonalizable matrices are normal, that is, they commute with their adjoint: ##M^*M=MM^*##, where ##M^*## is the conjugate transpose of ##M##.

So a matrix is diagonalizable if and only if it is normal, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_matrix

But from Boyce's section on repeated eigenvalues for systems of first-order differential equations, we have the example $$M=\begin{pmatrix}1&-1\\1&3\end{pmatrix}.$$ Which if we check ##MM^*##, we get $$MM^*=\begin{pmatrix}1&-1\\1&3\end{pmatrix}\begin{pmatrix}1&1\\-1&3\end{pmatrix}
=\begin{pmatrix}2&-2\\-2&8\end{pmatrix}.$$ The last is symmetric, so clearly ##MM^*=M^*M##.

However, Boyce does the problem, finds repeated eigenvalue of ##r=2##, only one eigenvector, for ##MP=PJ##, with ##J## not diagonal, that is, $$MP=
\begin{pmatrix}1&-1\\1&3\end{pmatrix}
\begin{pmatrix}1&0\\-1&-1\end{pmatrix}=
\begin{pmatrix}2&1\\-2&-3\end{pmatrix}=
\begin{pmatrix}1&0\\-1&-1\end{pmatrix}
\begin{pmatrix}2&1\\0&2\end{pmatrix}
=PJ$$

So we've found that ##M## is normal, but it is not diagonalizable. What is going on?
 
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Oh, ##P## is not unitary, as the normal matrix theorem describes. I'll have to think about that. It seems like if normal matrix theorem gets you a better ##J## matrix with fewer allowable ##P## matrices, then what Boyce did should have gotten [STRIKE]an orthonormal P matrix with[/STRIKE] ##J## diagonal.
 
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Your M isn't normal.

You concluded that M is normal because [itex]MM^*[/itex] is symmetric. But [itex]MM^*[/itex] is always symmetric/hermitan:

[tex](MM^*)^*=M^{**}M^*=MM^*[/tex]

Don't make the common mistake that

[tex](MM^*)^*=M^*M[/tex]

this is false.

Also, note that a matrix being normal means that it is diagonalizable by orthogonal/unitary operators. A matrix can be diagonalizable, without being normal.
 
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Aha, thank you for catching both of my mistakes micromass. So the matrix wasn't normal, which would have been diagonalizable, and diagonalizable does not imply normal.
 
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I'm no expert on matrices, but this line looks wrong to me:
algebrat said:
$$MM^*=\begin{pmatrix}1&-1\\1&3\end{pmatrix}\begin{pmatrix}1&1\\-1&3\end{pmatrix}
=\begin{pmatrix}2&-2\\-2&8\end{pmatrix}$$

Shouldn't it be:
$$MM^*=\begin{pmatrix}1&-1\\1&3\end{pmatrix}\begin{pmatrix}3&1\\-1&1\end{pmatrix}
=\begin{pmatrix}4&0\\0&4\end{pmatrix}$$
?

As I said, I'm not too clued up on adjuncts and such like, so I'm asking more for clarification of my own thinking rather than pointing out any error. Please ignore if I'm talking rubbish. :smile:
 
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No, that part was fine.

The transpose (which is the adjoint for real matrices) switches the rows and columns.

For example, in M, the first row is (1 -1). So that should be the first column of M*. The second row is (1 3) and that should be the second column of M*

So M* is indeed

[tex]\left(\begin{array}{cc}1 & 1\\ -1 & 3\end{array}\right)[/tex]

In particular, the diagonal entries always remain fixed.

For complex matrices, the adjoint is a bit more complicated. There, it involves not only transposing (=switching rows and columns) but you also need to take the complex conjugate of the entries.
 
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micromass said:
No, that part was fine.
Ahh... I understand now, thanks. I think I was confusing "adjugate" with "adjoint".

I must brush up on my matrices! :smile:
 
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oay said:
Ahh... I understand now, thanks. I think I was confusing "adjugate" with "adjoint".

I must brush up on my matrices! :smile:

Aaah, that makes sense. There are indeed two definitions of adjoint which are not equivalent (hence the reason why we call one adjugate instead of adjoint). I should have known you meant the adjugate when I saw that your multiplication resulted in a diagonal matrix.
But yeah, be careful with the term adjoint!
 
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micromass said:
But yeah, be careful with the term adjoint!
Yeah, I've since discovered the ambiguity! :smile:

However, this still isn't correct:
algebrat said:
$$MM^*=\begin{pmatrix}1&-1\\1&3\end{pmatrix}\begin{pmatrix}1&1\\-1&3\end{pmatrix}
=\begin{pmatrix}2&-2\\-2&8\end{pmatrix}$$

It should be:
$$MM^*=\begin{pmatrix}1&-1\\1&3\end{pmatrix}\begin{pmatrix}1&1\\-1&3\end{pmatrix}
=\begin{pmatrix}2&-2\\-2&10\end{pmatrix}$$

Although I don't suppose this affects the original question; just a minor quibble.
 
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Ah yes, it should indeed be 10! :smile:
 
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micromass said:
Ah yes, it should indeed be 10! :smile:

So you all claim that ##1\oplus1+3\oplus3=10## and not ##8##, hmmm? (JK! But that was my propogating mistake originally.)
 
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micromass said:
Aaah, that makes sense. There are indeed two definitions of adjoint which are not equivalent (hence the reason why we call one adjugate instead of adjoint). I should have known you meant the adjugate when I saw that your multiplication resulted in a diagonal matrix.
But yeah, be careful with the term adjoint!

Right, like micromass said, adjoint matrix usually refers to conjugate transpose, and this generalizes to... I think it's called adjoint operator. The basic idea is that the adjoint is what appears in the dual space, that is, for an inner product, ##x\cdot(Ay)=(A^*x)\cdot y.##

Then, on a higher plane, they have something called adjoint functor, which I am pretty sure is similar, but never on the same level. What I believe they have in common is that the adjoint is sort of a mirror image in a dual world. Then I think there's a different adjoint (maybe 2) in Lie algebras, having to do with conjugacy. It used to drive me nuts trying to figure out if any of these things are the same, but I think it was just an overuse of the word adjoint, which means something like the object closest too perhaps.

So, I guess they decided to rename your adjoint matrix (in sense of finding inverse), so in some older books it is called adjoint, in others it is called... You all named adjunct and adjugate as candidates.
 
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What is a normal matrix that isn't diagonalizable?

A normal matrix is a square matrix that commutes with its conjugate transpose. A matrix is diagonalizable if it can be transformed into a diagonal matrix through a similarity transformation. Therefore, a normal matrix that isn't diagonalizable cannot be transformed into a diagonal matrix through a similarity transformation.

What is a counterexample of a normal matrix that isn't diagonalizable?

An example of a normal matrix that isn't diagonalizable is the following matrix: [1 1; 0 1]. This matrix commutes with its conjugate transpose, but it cannot be transformed into a diagonal matrix through a similarity transformation.

What are the properties of a normal matrix that isn't diagonalizable?

A normal matrix that isn't diagonalizable has the following properties:
- It is a square matrix
- It commutes with its conjugate transpose
- It cannot be transformed into a diagonal matrix through a similarity transformation

Why is it important to understand normal matrices that aren't diagonalizable?

Understanding normal matrices that aren't diagonalizable is important because they have unique mathematical properties that can be useful in certain applications, such as in quantum mechanics and linear algebra. They also provide insights into the structure and behavior of matrices in general.

How can a normal matrix that isn't diagonalizable be useful in scientific research?

A normal matrix that isn't diagonalizable can be useful in scientific research because it can help solve complex problems and provide a deeper understanding of mathematical concepts. It also has applications in various fields, such as data analysis, signal processing, and physics.

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