Number of bits and resolution my answer VS my teacher's

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The discussion revolves around determining the appropriate number of bits required for an A/D converter in a load cell measurement system, focusing on the accuracy needed for weight measurements. Participants compare their calculations and reasoning regarding the required data bits for the converter.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster (OP) calculated n = 10 bits, while their teacher calculated n = 11 bits, leading to confusion about the correct answer.
  • One participant suggests the OP made an arithmetic error, implying that the calculation should yield a different result.
  • Another participant questions how the OP arrived at n = 9.64, indicating a potential misunderstanding or miscalculation.
  • A different perspective emphasizes the need for a resolution of 0.5 kg within the 200 kg range, suggesting that a smaller least significant bit (LSB) of 0.125 kg would require n = 11 bits.
  • The OP later acknowledges recalculating and agrees with the n = 11 conclusion, attributing the previous error to a faulty calculator.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is disagreement regarding the correct number of bits required for the A/D converter, with some participants supporting n = 11 and others initially supporting n = 10. The discussion reflects uncertainty and differing calculations without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying assumptions about the significance of the A/D converter reference voltage and the implications of the required resolution on the number of bits. The calculations depend on interpretations of the measurement requirements and the definitions of LSB.

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Homework Statement



A load cell converts weight to voltage. It's known that the transmission of a certain measurement system is 5 mV/kgf


In a computerized control system, it is necessary to translate the analog signal, which the transducer sends off, to a digital signal through an A/D converter.

In a certain weight system, it is necessarily to measure weight in the range of 0-200 kgf, whereas the needed accuracy of the measurement is 0.5 kgf

The A/D converter which is in the conversion system, is supplied by a 5V DC (Direct Current) voltage.

1) Pick the appropriate A/D converter for this measurement system (what's the required "data bits"?)



The Attempt at a Solution



What bothers me is that I got n = 10 and he got n = 11. What gives?

My solution:

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/7513/myann.jpg

My teacher solution: (Don't mind the Hebrew words)

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/5646/teacherans.jpg
 
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Hi FP. It is just an arithmetic error (on your part) I think. :smile:

0.0025 ≤ 5/(2n - 1)

2n - 1 ≥ 2 x 103

if n=10, LHS = 1023
if n=11, LHS = ...
 
How did you find your n=9.64?
 
Has nothing to do with the 5V a/d converter reference. We are interested in resolving 0.5kg/200 kg. If the LSB is 0.25kg and the actual weight is say 10.25 kg then we could get a reading of either 10.00 or 10.50 which is at the limit of requirement, so you should resolve to 0.125 kg which implies 200/.125 = 1600 LSB's or n = 11.
 
Nascent is right, I just reset my calculator and recalculated. It is indeed n =11 :-) Thank you for the replies.
 
Femme_physics said:
Nascent is right, I just reset my calculator and recalculated. It is indeed n =11 :-) Thank you for the replies.

Bad calculator! Bad! Switch to a slide-rule. :-)
 

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