Objects with Different Moments of Inertia Rolling Down an Inclined Plane

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of objects with different moments of inertia rolling down an inclined plane. Participants analyze how the distribution of mass affects the speed of various shapes, such as solid spheres, hollow spheres, and hollow cylinders. Key insights include that solid spheres have less inertia due to mass being closer to the center, allowing them to roll down faster than hollow spheres. The concept of a "special solid cylinder" with density proportional to radius is clarified, indicating a specific construction affecting its inertia. The conversation also touches on using conservation of energy to calculate the time taken for these objects to roll down the incline, emphasizing the importance of the moment of inertia in these calculations.
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I think the answer for this is B) or D) but I am not sure what the sentence "a special solid cylinder in which the density is proportional to the radius" means...

The solid sphere has little inertia because mass is closer. So , solid sphere will not be last compared to the hollow sphere. The frictionless cube will not be last because most of the energy will go into KE and not RE , so the energy is not wasted. It will go down faster.

The hollow sphere will have less inertia than the hollow cylinder because the mass is closer to center of mass. Choosing between, hollow cylinder and solid cylinder... i think it might be hollow cylinder
 

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lc99 said:
a special solid cylinder in which the density is propotional to the radius
It just means that the cylinder has been constructed so as to have that density distribution, with the centre less dense than the outside.
lc99 said:
i think it might be hollow cylinder
Right... so why did you say B or D?
 
I think you have some good insight into the problem. Not sure what your question is about the special solid cylinder.

You could use conservation of energy to figure out the time required for an object to roll down. The change in potential energy is from the vertical distance the center of mass has moved. The kinetic energy is ##\frac{1}{2}I\omega^2##. The kinetic energy is equal to the change in potential energy, positive. So you get ##\omega##, the angular rate of rotation, as a function of the vertical distance moved s. You have ##\frac{d s}{d t} = \omega R sin(\theta)## where R is the radius of the sphere or cylinder and ##\theta## is the angle of the incline. You can the integrate ##dt = \frac{d s}{(\frac{ds}{dt})}##.
 
The time mainly depends on ##\sqrt{\frac{I}{MR^2}}##
 
I think there is a second term in the kinetic energy, ##\frac{1}{2}mV^{2} = \frac{1}{2}R^{2}\omega^2##. This adds a term to I in the final expression for the time to roll down.
 
Gene Naden said:
I think there is a second term in the kinetic energy, ##\frac{1}{2}mV^{2} = \frac{1}{2}R^{2}\omega^2##. This adds a term to I in the final expression for the time to roll down.
It depends which I you use. If you take moment of inertia about the point of contact then you don't need to a linear term.
 
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