Odd Arrangement - Isolate the term "Ru" in V/(Vin*R)=(1/(R+Ru*k))-(1/(R+Ru))

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The discussion revolves around the algebraic manipulation of the equation V/(Vin*R)=(1/(R+Ru*k))-(1/(R+Ru)), specifically focusing on isolating the term "Ru". Participants explore various methods to rearrange the equation, with an emphasis on achieving a quadratic form.

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  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration in isolating Ru and seeks assistance.
  • Another suggests that getting Ru out of the denominators is necessary and hints at the use of the Quadratic Formula.
  • A different participant recommends combining the right-hand side into a single fraction to facilitate the manipulation into a quadratic form.
  • Several participants acknowledge reaching a quadratic form, indicating a shared understanding of the approach, though they note the process was complex.
  • There is a recognition of the varying levels of messiness in the approaches taken to solve the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to manipulate the equation into a quadratic form, but there is no consensus on the specific methods or the perceived complexity of the approaches.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the complexity and messiness of the algebraic manipulation, indicating that the process may involve multiple steps and assumptions that are not fully detailed in the discussion.

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I thought my algebra skills were good, but this problem has me frustrated. I would like to rearrange the equation to solve for Ru, but I can't seem to get Ru isolated. All values are known except for Ru.

V/(Vin*R)=(1/(R+Ru*k))-(1/(R+Ru))Thank you in advance.
 
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Re: Odd Arrangement - Isolate Ru

Well, what did you do first? You'll have to get Ru out of the denominators.

Two different denominators? I'm guessing you'll need your Quadratic Formula. Can you figure out which solution will be acceptable?
 
Re: Odd Arrangement - Isolate Ru

Welcome to MHB!

Hint: I would try grouping the RHS into a single fraction (find a common denominator), and then 'crank the handle'. i.e. multiply and group terms, you should end up with a quadratic in $R_{\rm u}$.

Edit: whoops, tkhunny beat me to it!
 
Re: Odd Arrangement - Isolate Ru

tkhunny said:
Well, what did you do first? You'll have to get Ru out of the denominators.

Two different denominators? I'm guessing you'll need your Quadratic Formula. Can you figure out which solution will be acceptable?

While you were able to see it more quickly, I've finally come to the same conclusion. I was able to put the equation in a quadratic form, equal to zero. Thank you for your help.

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Joppy said:
Welcome to MHB!

Hint: I would try grouping the RHS into a single fraction (find a common denominator), and then 'crank the handle'. i.e. multiply and group terms, you should end up with a quadratic in $R_{\rm u}$.

Edit: whoops, tkhunny beat me to it!
While you were able to see it more quickly, I've finally come to the same conclusion. I was able to put the equation in a quadratic form, equal to zero. Thank you for your help.
 
Re: Odd Arrangement - Isolate Ru

Outdoors said:
While you were able to see it more quickly, I've finally come to the same conclusion. I was able to put the equation in a quadratic form, equal to zero. Thank you for your help.

Good work! Was it messier than you expected?
 
Re: Odd Arrangement - Isolate Ru

tkhunny said:
Good work! Was it messier than you expected?
All the previous approaches were messy. The approach that led to the quadratic form was clean. It all took way too long though. Rusty I guess.
 
Re: Odd Arrangement - Isolate Ru

Outdoors said:
All the previous approaches were messy. The approach that led to the quadratic form was clean. It all took way too long though. Rusty I guess.
Perfect. Hang in there. You're getting back up to speed already!
 

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