One and Two Dimension collisions

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The discussion focuses on solving equations for a collision problem involving a 5.00kg ball and a 7.50kg ball, specifically for elastic and completely inelastic collisions. For the elastic collision, the user is seeking help with the algebra to derive the final velocities using conservation of momentum and kinetic energy. They correctly identified the equations but are confused about the algebraic manipulation needed to isolate the final velocities. For the inelastic collision, the user understands the concept but requests a step-by-step breakdown of the algebraic solution. Overall, the discussion emphasizes the need for clarity in solving collision equations.
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My question is not so much what to do it is just i have problems solving for a certain equation.

A 5.00kg ball, moving to the right at a velocity of 2m/s on a frictionless table, collides head-on with a stationary 7.50kg ball. Find the final velocities of the balls if the collision is (a) elastic and (b) completely inelastic

for part A

I have m1v1f + m2v2f= m1vi1 +0
to solve for final velocity 1(the ball for 5kg) you use

vf1=(m1-m2/m1+m2)vi1

I really have no i do how to algebraically solve for vf1, can someone explain that to me because when i use the equation i get the right answer which is -.400m/s

To find vf2 we use the fact that it is an ellastic collision and the kinetic energy before and after is the same

1/2m1(vf1^2)+1/2m2(vf2^2)=1/2m1(vi1^2)+0
Using this i have to solve for vf2 but again i have a problem algebraically solving for vf2. But there is a similar example in the textbook so i used what they had to solve for vf1 and vf2 but they do not show the work

vf2=(2m1/m1+m2)vi1
answer should be 1.60m/s

Same problem here but the answers come out correctly.
It would be greatly appreciated if someone can show me the algebra behind this
 
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For (a): use the fact that both kinetic energy and momentum are conserved. This will give you two equations with two unknowns, which are the final velocities.

For (b): what are the properties of a completely inelastic collision?
 
I understand that but i need someone to show me how to algebraically solve for those two equations that's what my problem is i understand how to solve for the final velocities. Like show the math workout step by step because i am confused.
 
clippers0319 said:
I understand that but i need someone to show me how to algebraically solve for those two equations that's what my problem is i understand how to solve for the final velocities. Like show the math workout step by step because i am confused.

Here, take a look at: http://www.webmath.com/solver2.html" .
 
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Kindly see the attached pdf. My attempt to solve it, is in it. I'm wondering if my solution is right. My idea is this: At any point of time, the ball may be assumed to be at an incline which is at an angle of θ(kindly see both the pics in the pdf file). The value of θ will continuously change and so will the value of friction. I'm not able to figure out, why my solution is wrong, if it is wrong .
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