Online PDF conversion service - fishy?

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The discussion centers around the effectiveness and reliability of online PDF conversion tools and free PDF writers. Users express skepticism about the motives behind online services, questioning what they gain from offering free conversions. Various free tools are mentioned, including PrimoPDF and PDF995, with users sharing their experiences regarding font preservation and document sizing issues. While some users report satisfaction with these tools, others encounter problems, such as incorrect document dimensions in the final PDF output. Suggestions for troubleshooting include checking printer settings and exploring options for embedding fonts. The conversation also touches on the limitations of free software compared to paid options like Adobe Acrobat Distiller, particularly for users needing specific features like custom paper sizes or high-quality font rendering. Additionally, there are mentions of LaTeX as an alternative for document preparation and conversion. Overall, the thread highlights the pros and cons of using free PDF conversion tools versus investing in professional software.
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I've been asked for my opinion on online PDF conversion sites.

This is what I was sent:
http://www.pdfonline.com/index.htm#free"

My spidey-sense is tingling. I just wonder what they're getting out of it that they're not telling me.

Can anyone advise me about online PDF converiosn in general? Is it cost-effective to just buy Acrobat Distller?
 
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There are several free PDF generation tools; just use one of them. They show up as virtual printers on Windows computers.

- Warren
 
This is the free PDF writer that I've used for about a year now, and I'm satisfied with it:

PrimoPDF http://www.primopdf.com/
 
berkeman said:
This is the free PDF writer that I've used for about a year now, and I'm satisfied with it:

PrimoPDF http://www.primopdf.com/

OK, well I gave it a test-run. It seems OK.

Problem is: it didn't preserve my fonts.


I'm now trying PrimoPDF. After installing it, what do I do next? Does it just show up as a printer all by itself? I opended its little control panel but that seems of little use. (And what is "button 2" anyway? Looks like a sloppy programmer to me.)
 
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DaveC426913 said:
OK, well I gave it a test-run. It seems OK.

Problem is: it didn't preserve my fonts.

I'm now trying PrimoPDF. After installing it, what do I do next? Does it just show up as a printer all by itself? I opended its little control panel but that seems of little use.)

Print your document and select Primo as the printer. There may be a panel of options to play with, but the defaults should be OK to get started.

It should be possible to get it to embed fonts. I know people who use Primo for apps with special fonts which would need to be embedded when they email the PDFs to other people. You may need to open the Windows Printers control panel, select Primo, and go to the "font substitution" options there. With luck you have a help file somewhere...

Personally I use a different package called PDF995 (shareware - costs $9.95, hence the name) but AFAIK all these PDF creators work more or less the same way, and they all use the GNU ghostscript engine to do the hard work.
 
I've used http://www.cutepdf.com/" , it seems good. I don't know much about it though.
 
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I use PDF995 and it has worked great for every application I have ever used it on, including CAD packages (where I use it a lot).
 
I got PrimoPDF running and creating PDFs.

But it doesn't seem to be preserving the document size - my document is 4.18"x6.88" but it ends up in the PDF as 8.5x11.

I found the PrimoPDF Edit Page Size dialogue and have set it correctly, but it doesn't print that way.
 
Same tihng with PDF995 - doesn't preserve document dimensions.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
My spidey-sense is tingling. I just wonder what they're getting out of it that they're not telling me.

hits on their site, and marketing driven revenue.
 
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I've had Adobe Acrobat Distiller and was satisfied with it. I turned to free software now and, yes, LaTex fonts don't look so good anymore.

Daniel.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Same tihng with PDF995 - doesn't preserve document dimensions.
I have never had that problem with it.
 
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There is a limitation with PDF995 - it has many predefined paper sizes but it doesn't support a "custom" size where you can type in the paper dimensions at print time. You select the paper size with the the "properties" button on the Windows print dialog.

You should be able to get your image at actual size on a larger piece of "paper", if you switch off all the "fit to page" options in the program you are printing from, if that's a good enough workround.

If you want to add a new paper size, you can edit the .PPD file (PostScript Page/Paper Definition?) that defines the sizes. The .PPD file format is in a document on the Adobe website somewhere. But that's not a replacement for a genuine "custom" size. If you need that, you probably need to buy Adobe Distiller or whatever.
 
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AlephZero said:
There is a limitation with PDF995 - it has many predefined paper sizes but it doesn't support a "custom" size where you can type in the paper dimensions at print time.
Well, yes it does. You can choose 'Post Script custom size' in the PDF995 print properties, and set your values there.

It just doesn't stick.


I tried some of the other size papers (A3, etc), to see if it was simply the custom size that was buggered up, but none of them worked. My PDF doc came out 8.5x11.
 
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OK, we must have different versions of PDF995. I can definitely use the predefined paper sizes, I do it all the time, and I don't have a custom size.

I can't find a version number but mine is several years old. It ain't broke for me, so I've never checked for upgrades.

Sorry, I don't know what else to suggest, except to email their tech support.
 
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If you write your docs in Latex you can use latex.exe to convert to .dvi and then dvi2pdfmx.exe to convert to .pdf. The web based latex editor I'm working on, www.latexlab.org[/URL], uses this process when you select to export as pdf.
 
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Here's my vote: PDFCreator http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/

Since it seems that some of the others mentioned have some interesting features (like table of contents generation), I might take a look at those.
 
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Sorry I missed this thread...
DaveC426913 said:
Same tihng with PDF995 - doesn't preserve document dimensions.
It does for me. Just make sure you select the paper size when you print. What program are you printing from?
 
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russ_watters said:
Sorry I missed this thread... It does for me. Just make sure you select the paper size when you print. What program are you printing from?

MS Word.

And the place where you select the paper size is the print driver for the PDF writer.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
MS Word.

And the place where you select the paper size is the print driver for the PDF writer.
Right... so I don't understand the problem. When you select letter size paper in the PDF995 driver, what happens?
 
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I set my paper size as required: 4.18x6.88 and then print the document ... and I get a PDF that's 8.5x11, with my little document page in the upper centre of a big blank page.
 
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MF to TTF or MF to Adobe type 1 font?

-Job- said:
If you write your docs in Latex you can use latex.exe to convert to .dvi and then dvi2pdfmx.exe to convert to .pdf. The web based latex editor I'm working on, www.latexlab.org[/URL], uses this process when you select to export as pdf.[/QUOTE]

[quote="dextercioby, post: 1182188"]I've had Adobe Acrobat Distiller and was satisfied with it. I turned to free software now and, yes, LaTex fonts don't look so good anymore.

Daniel.[/QUOTE]

In [PLAIN]http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0703001" I have used some special symbols. Currently I am designing new TeX fonts for these symbols with the use of METAFONT. When converting such fonts to PS and PDF they are represented as BitMap fonts. These fonts are not good-looking when scaled. So, please, I need a font-converting utility for converting MF to TTF or MF to Adobe type 1 fonts. Also, please, do you know any free TTF font-editor?
 
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