Operators satisfying abstract commutation relation; then finding an eigenvalue.

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The problem involves two operators, P and Q, that satisfy a specific commutation relation, [Q,P] = Q. The original poster is tasked with demonstrating that Qψ is also an eigenfunction of P, given that ψ is an eigenfunction of P with eigenvalue p. The significance of the commutation relation in this context is unclear to the original poster.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster lists known relationships and attempts to manipulate the commutation relation to explore the implications for the eigenfunction Qψ. They express confusion about how to demonstrate that Qψ is an eigenfunction and what conditions must be satisfied.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the direction of the problem, suggesting that the original poster substitute known values into their equations to progress. There is an acknowledgment of the original poster's struggle with the problem, and a collaborative tone is present in the responses.

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The original poster is currently in a study center and is seeking assistance that is more effective than what they have encountered there. This indicates a preference for interactive problem-solving support.

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So, my problem statement is:

Suppose that two operators P and Q satisfy the commutation relation [Q,P] = Q .
Suppose that ψ is an eigenfunction of the operator P with eigenvalue p. Show that Qψ is also an eigenfunction of P, and find its eigenvalue.

This shouldn't be too difficult, but I'm wrestling with this one. I can't seem to figure out the significance of the commutation relation in the prompt, or whether or not it's saying anything particularly relevant to finding the eigenvalue of P..

Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
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List your knowns:

QP-PQ=Q

Pψ=pψ

Now PQψ=?
 
Following my knowns, I'm tempted to say that:

PQ = QP - Q ... based on the commutation relation.

Which would mean that PQψ = QPψ - Qψ

Showing you what I worked out before posting might help you understand where my confusion's coming from. I started with:

relation: [Q,P] = Q

which means, QPψ - PQψ = Q(pψ) - [Q(pψ) - Qψ] = Qψ

So, how do I show that Qψ is also an eigenfunction? What needs to be true?


Thanks again.
 
I hope you aren't slipping a homework problem in here :smile:

What you're trying to show is that: PQψ = κQψ; that is, Qψ is an eigenfunction of P with eigenvalue κ.

You got as far as PQψ = QPψ - Qψ; from there if you substitute the known value of Pψ you'll end up with your answer pretty quickly.
 
Hahah, well, it is a homework problem! But I get better help on here than I do in the study center without being given the answer in either place. (Believe me, I'm IN the study center right now). Kinda sad, huh!? Thanks for the help, ya'll.
 

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