Optimizing Support Geometry for Tall Structures: A Civil Engineering Problem

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The discussion focuses on optimizing the geometry of a tall concrete support structure, specifically a 100m column designed to hold a 1000-tonne mass. Key considerations include minimizing material volume and cost while adhering to a maximum concrete stress limit of 12 MPa. Participants suggest calculating total force and using stress formulas to determine dimensions, with a preference for a conical shape for efficiency. There is also mention of employing linear programming techniques to find the minimum cost and volume for construction. Overall, the goal is to balance structural integrity with economic feasibility in civil engineering design.
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Homework Statement



When building a tall support, often the self weight of the support must be considered. For an optimal support, the volume of material, and hence the cost, will be a minimum. If the maximum allowable stress in concrete is 12 MPa, determine the optimal geometry of the column 100m tall made of concrete to support a mass of 1000 tonnes at its top (like the CN tower).


Homework Equations



Weight concrete: 24Kn/m^3
Stiffness: 30000MPa
Cost: $0.05/kg

The Attempt at a Solution



well I guess I can find the total force = 1000(#tonnes) x 9.81.

Also Stress = Force/Area and from that I can find the radius/diameter of the cylinder.

But the cylinder is suppose to be sort of "cone" shaped I think for optimal geometry (like the CN Tower)

Also, would there have to be a function to find the minimum cost and volume of building this structure?

Thanks
 
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will3330 said:

Homework Statement



When building a tall support, often the self weight of the support must be considered. For an optimal support, the volume of material, and hence the cost, will be a minimum. If the maximum allowable stress in concrete is 12 MPa, determine the optimal geometry of the column 100m tall made of concrete to support a mass of 1000 tonnes at its top (like the CN tower).


Homework Equations



Weight concrete: 24Kn/m^3
Stiffness: 30000MPa
Cost: $0.05/kg

The Attempt at a Solution



well I guess I can find the total force = 1000(#tonnes) x 9.81.

Also Stress = Force/Area and from that I can find the radius/diameter of the cylinder.

But the cylinder is suppose to be sort of "cone" shaped I think for optimal geometry (like the CN Tower)

Also, would there have to be a function to find the minimum cost and volume of building this structure?

Thanks
I can't say much, but as for the minimum cost, you might want to try some linear programming given your constraints
 
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