Relativity Ordering Books about GR: Recommendations and Necessity

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The discussion centers on selecting books for studying General Relativity (GR) at a high school level. The initial poster plans to order three specific books but seeks advice on whether two additional titles are necessary. Recommendations emphasize starting with Hartle's book, which is deemed suitable for beginners, while Weinberg's book is considered too advanced for introductory learners. Participants suggest that foundational mathematics, including vector analysis, is essential before tackling GR concepts. They recommend reading Hartle's book after gaining some understanding of vector analysis, and some suggest Zee's book as a good follow-up. The poster expresses difficulty in finding Hartle's book and considers reading Lieber's book instead, which is viewed as more accessible. Overall, the consensus is to begin with easier texts and gradually progress to more complex materials, ensuring a solid grasp of the necessary mathematical concepts along the way.
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I will order books about GR.Here what I think
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1589880447/?tag=pfamazon01-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0070379858/?tag=pfamazon01-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0471925675/?tag=pfamazon01-20
I will order these.
Here the extra books which I need recommend.Is these are necessery.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0071756035/?tag=pfamazon01-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0071615458/?tag=pfamazon01-20
I am in high school.(Some of members know it)I just want to ask I will order first three books.Is last two books are necessary ?.If you have any extra ideas you can share with me.
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At first I should say that Weinberg's book isn't proper for you. I suggest you read Hartle's instead.
And about the mathematics needed. All GR books I've seen provide the needed mathematics, including Hartle's. So I suggest you to read GR books first and then, when you have an idea about differential geometry and tensor calculus, read the Schaum's books.
An exception to the above is vector analysis. I think its better to read the vector analysis book first so that you have some idea of multicomponent objects.
I should also say that the above applies if you have a good understanding of calculus and Newtonian physics, at least!

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Zee's book is very nice too. I think its better to read this. But it depends on your level. Its a bit more advanced than Hartle's but is very pedagogical. So you may want to choose this if you think you can do it.
 
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So I sould read first Vector analysis then The Einstein Theory of Relatvity Dimension then Hartle book then Differantial Geometry then Tensor Calculus ??
Note:Thanks for Hartle book Its fantastic
 
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So I sould read first Vector analysis then The Einstein Theory of Relatvity Dimension then Hartle book then Differantial Geometry then Tensor Calculus ??
I don't think that book by Lieber et.al. is necessary. You may do without it, Hartle is enough.
Also, reading a book specially about differential geometry or tensor calculus is optional. If after reading the GR book, you feel good about everything, you may feel you don't need to read those.
In fact I feel its good for you to read Zee's after Hartle's. It helps you in both physics and math. After that you may want to attack Weinberg's or other advanced books. But its again better to learn some more physics and then read more advanced GR books.
But yes, I think you should first read the vector analysis book.
 
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Thank you
 
I couldn't found Hartles book.Can I read Lieber instead ?
 
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I couldn't found Hartles book.Can I read Lieber instead ?
Yes!
 
Personally I like D'Inverno --Introducing Einstein's Relativity. Indeed Hartle is very good too.

Yes... as already mentioned above, don't get Weinberg for the introductionary level.
 
I'm reading Sean Carroll's book and think it's pretty wonderful. So is Schutz's book.
 
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I ordered Lieber and vector analysis book.They will come in 45 days.I will not order Weinberg book now.When I finish my book,I will start reading Hartle's I guess. I found pdf format of Hartle's but I can't read a book from computer.So I need to fnish these books to order new one.

Everyone has a different learning style.So everyone has a different idea.

I ordered Lieber cause its easy to understant for High school level.I can't bought hartle its too expansive.But I have a idea.I will going to print hartles book.Then I will going to read like that.But I think I need to read first Lieber.
 
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Is Lieber gives enough info about cosmology ? Or should I read another book after Lieber
 

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