Paper on time travel

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We could serve as perhaps some aide if you told us more clearly what the assignment is, for what class (more particularly, as different humanities disciplines have different expectations) and what specific expectation the teacher is likely to have, as well.

If this is merely a paper "on time travel" then you're going to have to make up the expectations for yourself, and in any case this seems like a very poorly guided class.

You appear not to want to write a paper referring to any actual physics. In that case, I'm sure you could find better sources of advice for academic writing than this forum.
 
  • #77
i was wondering if one of you would like to read my paper on time travel?
 
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Sure thing, I know i'd like to... not sure how many other people have the time though.
 
  • #79
Pengwuino said:
Sure thing, I know i'd like to... not sure how many other people have the time though.
It's not complete though ....

I have written about 7 pages .... and it's supposed to be 12 pages long

Do you want to take a look at it now or do you want to read it once it's finished?
 
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well, this might have already been discussed in this thread, but what aspect of time travel would you like to write about...the philosophical aspects of it, or the technical aspects of it? This would depend on the class the paper is for.

PHilosophically, there is a lot to write about. Technically, however, might be a bit more difficult. The possibility of time trael being feasible in the "back to the future" sense is slim to none, and this is entirely science fiction. However, there are many ideas in physics that could be considered a form of time travel, but just in a much more subtle way.
 
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leright said:
well, this might have already been discussed in this thread, but what aspect of time travel would you like to write about? The philosophical aspects of it, or the technical aspects of it?
i have focused my paper on technical and logical aspects of it
 
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I'd like to take a look. I'm sure if we can get some other people who know a lot more about physics, they'll provide some more help.
 
  • #83
Pengwuino said:
I'd like to take a look. I'm sure if we can get some other people who know a lot more about physics, they'll provide some more help.
mind im'ing me on aim or yahoo?
it's pvirgohere for both of them
 
  • #84
anyone whos willing to read my paper should im me or something on aim or yahoo...
or tell me your email address so that i can email the paper to you

but I dont think I should copy paste my paper here ... i hope you guys (esp the forums moderators lol) dont mind
 
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This is certainly an interesting and inspiring topic to write a paper on.

There are many ways you could approach this paper, however I would suggest the following structure.


Time Travel - Fact or Myth?

Time travel will be discussed on the context of both modern physics and its portrayal in popular movies.


You will need to discuss the following:

1) Einstein's relativity and time being viewed as the 4th dimension - also address why we can move freely in the 3 spatial dimensions but not in the 4th (time) dimension. Discuss the twin paradox and mention that the best we could do according to Special Relativity is 'slow' time down from the perspective of an Earth-bound observer watching a friend/twin in a spacecraft.

2) Modern conceptions of how a time machine might work.
Discuss
i) The Kip Thorne paper on wormholes.
ii) A massive rotating cylinder dragging space-time.

3) Problems and resolutions.

i) The (oh so popular) grandfather paradox.
ii) The Everett Wheeler Many universe unterpretation of quantum mechanics as a resolution to i). You could also write at least a page here discussing quantum mechanics.

4) Movies

The films that I can think of that address time travel are:

i) The philadelphia experiment (wormhole perspective)
ii) The Time machine (HG wells)
iii) Timeline by Michael Crichton (terrible film).
iv) Back to the future.

Back to the future certainly addresses the problem of paradoxes.

This should easily fill 12 pages.

Good luck.

Rich


PS - I don't have IM or anything like that so don't ask! ;)
Just communicate on this forum.
 
  • #86
robousy said:
This is certainly an interesting and inspiring topic to write a paper on.
There are many ways you could approach this paper, however I would suggest the following structure.
Time Travel - Fact or Myth?
Time travel will be discussed on the context of both modern physics and its portrayal in popular movies.
You will need to discuss the following:
1) Einstein's relativity and time being viewed as the 4th dimension - also address why we can move freely in the 3 spatial dimensions but not in the 4th (time) dimension. Discuss the twin paradox and mention that the best we could do according to Special Relativity is 'slow' time down from the perspective of an Earth-bound observer watching a friend/twin in a spacecraft.
2) Modern conceptions of how a time machine might work.
Discuss
i) The Kip Thorne paper on wormholes.
ii) A massive rotating cylinder dragging space-time.
3) Problems and resolutions.
i) The (oh so popular) grandfather paradox.
ii) The Everett Wheeler Many universe unterpretation of quantum mechanics as a resolution to i). You could also write at least a page here discussing quantum mechanics.
4) Movies
The films that I can think of that address time travel are:
i) The philadelphia experiment (wormhole perspective)
ii) The Time machine (HG wells)
iii) Timeline by Michael Crichton (terrible film).
iv) Back to the future.
Back to the future certainly addresses the problem of paradoxes.
This should easily fill 12 pages.
Good luck.
Rich
PS - I don't have IM or anything like that so don't ask! ;)
Just communicate on this forum.
i bolded the items i would like more info on

also, i would like you to read my rough draft .... if you dont wanna share your email address, then let me know so that i can upload the file somewhere :)
(but yeah, if you dont have time ... then thats a dif story lol)
 
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sweetvirgogirl said:
I have written about 7 pages
How is it that you have written 7 pages when you do not yet have a thesis statement, a basic outline of what sub-topics you want to discuss,

or any idea as to how you want to structure your discussion? :confused:
 
  • #88
*melinda* said:
How is it that you have written 7 pages when you do not yet have a thesis statement, a basic outline of what sub-topics you want to discuss,
or any idea as to how you want to structure your discussion? :confused:
of course i have a thesis statement now lol.... (i dunno why i assume ppl can read my mind lol)

but i didnt make a separate thread abouut it coz moderators wouldnt like it
 
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sweetvirgogirl said:
anyone whos willing to read my paper should im me or something on aim or yahoo...
or tell me your email address so that i can email the paper to you

I think that if anyone was willing to do that, they would have done it by now. Instead, how about you make a PDF out of your paper and attach it to your next post. You can attach PDF's up to 409.6 kB here.
 
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"but i didnt make a separate thread abouut it coz moderators wouldnt like it"

There would be no point in starting another thread on the same topic.

"i have focused my paper on technical and logical aspects of it"

I didn't catch this the first time through. It sounds like you're well on your way to finishing that paper. Good luck!
 
  • #91
Tom Mattson said:
I think that if anyone was willing to do that, they would have done it by now. Instead, how about you make a PDF out of your paper and attach it to your next post. You can attach PDF's up to 409.6 kB here.
one person did im me ... i'm too afraid to post my paper on the forums ... coz it;s like open to EVERYONE! .. i dunno ... maybe i should upload it somewhere and pm the link to people?
 
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Don’t be afraid to post something; people on this forum are here to help, not judge. Besides, that’s the beauty if the internet… It’s anonymous. :biggrin:
 
  • #93
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Yeah. I promise you we will not be able to deduce your address and phone number just by reading the paper!
 
  • #94
Tom Mattson said:
Yeah. I promise you we will not be able to deduce your address and phone number just by reading the paper!
^melinda and you are off track :lol:

anyway, I'll try to post it some time
 
  • #95
Pengwuino said:
Sounds kinda stupid to be honest...

12 pages from a philisophical angle still seems like an insurmountable task. I mean all you can really ask are questions and I wouldn't think theres much out there to help answer or even think about those questions.

That is very true. The professor is more than likely going to read the thesis, first line of every paragraph, and then stamp a grade based upon whether it fits his/her philosophic view of time travel.

I'm not exactly sure what philophical is (slept through the class in hs), but my dad and I could easily write 12 pages on Back to the Future about whether the Doc was wearing a bullet proof vest the first time it is shown that he is shot by THE LYBIANS!

I guess philosophy had something to do with good and bad (because my teacher always said objectivism couldn't distinguish the two:mad: ), so, sweetvirgogirl, write a thesis on whether the Doc should have read the letter Marty gave him.

I have to admit it sounds more like your professor wants you to write a philosophical thesis on a movie.
 
  • #96
Plastic Photon said:
That is very true. The professor is more than likely going to read the thesis, first line of every paragraph, and then stamp a grade based upon whether it fits his/her philosophic view of time travel.
I'm not exactly sure what philophical is (slept through the class in hs), but my dad and I could easily write 12 pages on Back to the Future about whether the Doc was wearing a bullet proof vest the first time it is shown that he is shot by THE LYBIANS!
I guess philosophy had something to do with good and bad (because my teacher always said objectivism couldn't distinguish the two:mad: ), so, sweetvirgogirl, write a thesis on whether the Doc should have read the letter Marty gave him.
I have to admit it sounds more like your professor wants you to write a philosophical thesis on a movie.
i'm finishing my paper ...
and it's not about back to the future!!!!!!!!!
wanna read it?
 
  • #97
I'm done writing my paper. Thanks for helping me out!
 
  • #98
sweetvirgogirl said:
I'm done writing my paper. Thanks for helping me out!

I think most of the people here would like to read it, if you do not mind.
 
  • #99
Plastic Photon said:
I think most of the people here would like to read it, if you do not mind.
you would be quite surprized!

i asked so many people to read it before i was going to turn it in ... but only one or two people came forward to help.
Out of them, only one person genuinely helped me out.

I'm not complaining ... but I'm just telling you that they are not interested ... but yeah i wouldnt post my paper on forums ... maybe thats why?

anyway ...I already submitted it ... and it's not a masterpiece ... many loopholes .... but i enjoyed working on it!!! I learnt a lot
 
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sweetvirgogirl said:
...I already submitted it ... and it's not a masterpiece ... many loopholes .... but i enjoyed working on it!!! I learnt a lot
That's the important thing. :wink:
 

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