Paralell Plate Capacitors and Dielectric

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The discussion revolves around calculating the charge on the top plate of a parallel plate capacitor with a dielectric inserted. The capacitor has an area of 3118 cm², a voltage of 6 V, and a plate separation of 0.35 cm, with the dielectric having a thickness of 0.175 cm and a dielectric constant of 2.6. Participants explore the relationship between capacitance with and without the dielectric, noting that the configuration resembles two capacitors in series. Despite initial confusion, they confirm the equations used for capacitance calculations are correct but suspect a numerical error may be the issue. The conversation also touches on how the voltage changes when the battery is disconnected and the dielectric is removed, emphasizing charge conservation.
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Homework Statement



Two parallel plates, each having area A = 3118cm2 are connected to the terminals of a battery of voltage Vb = 6 V as shown. The plates are separated by a distance d = 0.35cm. You may assume (contrary to the drawing) that the separation between the plates is small compared to a linear dimension of the plate.

A dielectric having dielectric constant κ = 2.6 is now inserted in between the plates of the capacitor as shown. The dielectric has area A = 3118 cm2 and thickness equal to half of the separation (= 0.175 cm) . What is the charge on the top plate of this capacitor?

Homework Equations



C=Q/V

C(new) = KC(old)

The Attempt at a Solution



I really have no idea.

I tried dividing the new capacitance by (because the dielectric is d/2 long) and calculating Q from that, but that didn't work.
 

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kjlchem said:

Homework Statement



Two parallel plates, each having area A = 3118cm2 are connected to the terminals of a battery of voltage Vb = 6 V as shown. The plates are separated by a distance d = 0.35cm. You may assume (contrary to the drawing) that the separation between the plates is small compared to a linear dimension of the plate.

A dielectric having dielectric constant κ = 2.6 is now inserted in between the plates of the capacitor as shown. The dielectric has area A = 3118 cm2 and thickness equal to half of the separation (= 0.175 cm) . What is the charge on the top plate of this capacitor?

Homework Equations



C=Q/V

C(new) = KC(old)

The Attempt at a Solution



I really have no idea.

I tried dividing the new capacitance by (because the dielectric is d/2 long) and calculating Q from that, but that didn't work.

The resulting configuration will behave like two capacitors in series: One without dielectric and one with dielectric.
 
Okay, that makes sense.

So, what I have so far now is

1/C(without) + 1/C(with) = 1/C

C(without)= εA/(d/2)

C(with)= εAK/(d/2)

Unfortunately, this does not give me the right answer. What am I doing wrong?
 
kjlchem said:
Okay, that makes sense.

So, what I have so far now is

1/C(without) + 1/C(with) = 1/C

C(without)= εA/(d/2)

C(with)= εAK/(d/2)

Unfortunately, this does not give me the right answer. What am I doing wrong?

Your equations look okay. Perhaps a calculation issue? What numerical values did you find?
 
Yep! Got it!

The next part asks for the voltage when the battery is disconnected and the dielectric is removed. Does this have to do with the difference in capacitance between when the dielectric is present and when it is not?
 
kjlchem said:
Yep! Got it!

The next part asks for the voltage when the battery is disconnected and the dielectric is removed. Does this have to do with the difference in capacitance between when the dielectric is present and when it is not?

Yes. What will be conserved?
 
Charge, apparently. Got it!
 
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