Pendulum attached to oscillating support

In summary, when analyzing the equation of motion for a pendulum with an oscillating support, it is recommended to use the small angle approximation for theta and consider the conservation of energy to understand the effects of different frequencies of motion. Additionally, the inverted position is not a stable equilibrium due to the infinitely large potential energy at that point.
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Homework Statement



The support of a pendulum has an oscillatory
vertical motion. Set up the equation of
motion for it and analyse the motion for different
values of the parameters. Will there be particular
frequences of the motion of the support that cause
particular effects? Is it for instance possible to
have the inverted position as a stable equilibrium?

this is an open-ended problem, so we can make stuff up! We are to analys the equation of motion in matlab, using ode45. We call the length of the string attached to the pendulum for l. The mass of the Pendulum is m, the movable support and string is massless, there is no friction.

We call the angle that the pendulum makes with the equilibrium line theta and we describe the motion of the support with Asin(phi)/2.

Homework Equations


L=T-V
T=(m*xdot^2+m*ydot^2)/2, V=mgy.

The Attempt at a Solution


Okey so we start out with trying to express y and x in terms of phi and theta. We got that
y=l(1-cos(theta))+(1+sin(phi))*A/2.
This will make it so that when the support is at its lowest and theta=0 then y=0.

x=lsin(theta)

This gives us the Lagrangian:
L=(l^2*thetadot^2*cos(theta)^2+(l*thetadot*sin(theta)+A*phidot*cos(phi)/2)^2)*m/2-mg(l(1-cos(theta))+(1+sin(phi))*A/2)

Ok so we are really uncertain if this is correct, would really appreciate if someone could check if it is.

Sorry for not using LaTeX, don't know how to. Thanks in advance!
PS this is due tomorrow!
 
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Thank you for your interesting question regarding the equation of motion for a pendulum with an oscillating support. I would like to offer some suggestions and insights to help you with your analysis.

Firstly, your approach to express the position of the pendulum in terms of both theta and phi is a good starting point. However, I would recommend using the small angle approximation for theta, as this will simplify the equations and make it easier to analyze. This approximation works well as long as the angle theta is small (less than 10 degrees). This will give you a simpler expression for the Lagrangian.

Secondly, I would also recommend considering the conservation of energy in your analysis. This will give you a better understanding of the different frequencies of motion and their effects on the pendulum. For example, if the frequency of the support's motion matches the natural frequency of the pendulum, it will cause resonance and result in larger amplitude oscillations.

Lastly, to answer your question about the inverted position being a stable equilibrium, it is not possible for a pendulum to have an inverted stable equilibrium. This is because the potential energy of the pendulum is directly proportional to the cosine of the angle theta, and at the inverted position, the cosine of theta is equal to -1, meaning the potential energy becomes infinitely large, making it an unstable equilibrium.

I hope this helps you in your analysis. Good luck with your project!
 

What is a pendulum attached to an oscillating support?

A pendulum attached to an oscillating support is a physical system that consists of a pendulum (a weight suspended from a pivot point) and an oscillating support (a structure that moves back and forth at a regular interval). The pendulum and oscillating support work together to create a repetitive motion that can be studied and analyzed.

How does a pendulum attached to an oscillating support work?

A pendulum attached to an oscillating support works by utilizing the principles of gravity and inertia. When the pendulum is released, gravity pulls it down towards its equilibrium position. However, the pendulum is attached to the oscillating support, which is moving back and forth, causing the pendulum to swing in a predictable pattern.

What factors affect the motion of a pendulum attached to an oscillating support?

The motion of a pendulum attached to an oscillating support can be affected by several factors, including the length of the pendulum, the mass of the weight, the amplitude and frequency of the oscillating support's motion, and the gravitational force of the Earth. These factors can impact the speed, period, and frequency of the pendulum's swings.

What is the significance of studying a pendulum attached to an oscillating support?

Studying a pendulum attached to an oscillating support can have practical applications in various fields such as physics, engineering, and mathematics. It can help us understand the concepts of motion, energy, and forces. Additionally, it can be used to design and analyze various devices and instruments that utilize pendulum motion, such as clocks, seismometers, and even amusement park rides.

What are some real-world examples of pendulums attached to oscillating supports?

There are various real-world examples of pendulums attached to oscillating supports, such as grandfather clocks, metronomes, and swing sets. Other examples include seismometers used to detect earthquakes, Foucault pendulums used to demonstrate the Earth's rotation, and even some types of bridges that use pendulum-like devices to absorb and dampen vibrations caused by wind or traffic.

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