Pendulum projectile momentum question

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A 0.010 kg pendulum bob is released from a height and, upon reaching its equilibrium position, the string breaks, causing it to act as a projectile. The discussion focuses on calculating the height from which the bob was released, using principles of momentum and energy conservation. The initial velocity of the bob is determined by equating potential energy to kinetic energy, resulting in v = sqrt(19.62h). Participants clarify the equations needed for horizontal and vertical motion, emphasizing that horizontal acceleration is zero. The final steps involve substituting time into the vertical motion equations to find the height (h).
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Homework Statement


A 0.010 kg pendulum bob is dropped from a height (h) above its equilibrium position. When the bob reaches its equilibrium position, the string breaks and the bob now acts as a projectile. After the string breaks the bob falls 1.5 m while moving 2.0 m horizontally. Calculate the height (h) from which the bob was released.


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hi jackneedshelp! welcome to pf! :wink:

show us what you've tried, and where you're stuck, and then we'll know how to help! :smile:
 
I don't even know where to start! It should have something to do with momentum and impulse, but I can't even get started on it! Please help!
 
first find the speed of the bob (as a function of h) when the string breaks …

show us what you get​
 
I set potential energy equal to kinetic energy, and solved for v.
v = sqrt(19.62h)
 
yup! :smile:

now use that as the initial horizontal velocity of a projectile …

write standard constant acceleration equations for x and y (separately)
 
so I did the horizontal part, and got the horizontal acceleration to be 4.905h.
how do I do the vertical part?
 
jackneedshelp said:
so I did the horizontal part, and got the horizontal acceleration to be 4.905h.

how can there be any horizontal acceleration? :confused:

there's no horizontal force :redface:
 
so I'm solving for time?
 
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or final velocity?
 
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write out some equations!
 
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d = 2.0m
vi = sqrt(19.62h)
vf = 0
t = ?

2 = (0+sqrt(19.62h))/2 *t
t = 4 / (sqrt(19.62h))

is that what I'm supposed to do?
 
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jackneedshelp said:
d = 2.0m
vi = sqrt(19.62h)
vf = 0
t = ?

2 = (0+sqrt(19.62h))/2 *t
t = 4 / (sqrt(19.62h))

is that what I'm supposed to do?

something like that

but vf isn't 0 (and you aren't told what it is)

and that's the wrong equation anyway

this time, first write out the equation you're using, in letters,

then write it out with the numbers in​
 
  • #14
vf srd = vi srd + 2ad
vf srd = (sqrt(19.62h))srd + 2(0)(2)
vf = sqrt(19.62h)

so vf = vi
 
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jackneedshelp said:
vf srd = vi srd + 2ad
vf srd = (sqrt(19.62h))srd + 2(0)(2)
vf = sqrt(19.62h)

so vf = vi

well, yes, but that's a bit obvious

horizontally, a = 0, so v is constant

you need an equation with t in it​
 
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d = vi t + (0.5)(a)(t)sqrd
2 = sqrt(19.62h) t + 0
t = 2 / sqrt(19.62h)
 
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jackneedshelp said:
t = 2 / sqrt(19.62h)

yes :smile:

and now use that value of t in a similar equation for the y direction :wink:
 
  • #18
Ohhh kaaaaay! I get it! Thanks!
 
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