Perceived vs. Actual Velocity in an Expanding Universe

In summary, the distance-related redshift observed by Edwin Hubble is a result of the expanding Universe. This means that as light travels through space, the space itself expands, causing the light to appear redshifted. The Hubble Velocity, which is calculated using the Hubble rate, should be seen as a perceived velocity rather than an actual velocity. This is because both interpretations of the cosmological redshift, as an artifact of the expanding universe or an actual Doppler shift, are equally valid and depend on the coordinate system imposed. Ultimately, our understanding of reality is based on what we measure.
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According to what I've been taught, the distance-related redshift seen by Edwin Hubble is an artifact of an expanding Universe. That is, as light travels through space, space itself expands, redshifting the light (matter is embedded in space and does not itself expand but is instead carried along like raisins in a rising loaf of bread).

Ok. So assuming a mostly constant Universe expansion rate R, this means that the real velocity of a galaxy moving away from us would always be just R. However, the perceived velocity would always be H0D.

Is this correct so far, that is, should the Hubble Velocity be seen as perceived, not actual? Thanks!
 
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A rate is not a velocity, it does not even have the same units. The Hubble rate ##H## has units of 1/time whereas a velocity has units of length/time.

When it comes to interpreting "cosmological redshift" in terms of being an artefact of an expanding universe or an actual Doppler shift: It depends. Locally, both interpretations are equally valid and depend on the coordinate system you impose. See my Insight https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/coordinate-dependent-statements-expanding-universe/ Although it is written for A-level, you should be able to gain some understanding from it.
 
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zapnthund50 said:
... this means that the real... However, the perceived...

Reality is the thing we measure.
 

1. What is the difference between perceived and actual velocity in an expanding universe?

Perceived velocity in an expanding universe refers to the apparent motion of objects in the universe as observed by an observer on Earth. This is affected by the expansion of the universe and the relative motion between the observer and the object. Actual velocity, on the other hand, refers to the true motion of an object in the universe, unaffected by the expansion of the universe.

2. How does the expansion of the universe affect perceived and actual velocity?

The expansion of the universe causes objects to appear to be moving away from each other, regardless of their actual velocity. This means that perceived velocity will always be greater than actual velocity in an expanding universe.

3. Can perceived and actual velocity ever be the same in an expanding universe?

No, perceived and actual velocity can never be the same in an expanding universe. This is because the expansion of the universe will always cause objects to appear to be moving apart, regardless of their actual velocity.

4. How can we measure the actual velocity of objects in an expanding universe?

We can measure the actual velocity of objects in an expanding universe by using the redshift of light. This is a phenomenon where the wavelength of light from a distant object is stretched due to the expansion of the universe. By measuring this redshift, we can determine the actual velocity of the object.

5. What implications does the difference between perceived and actual velocity have for our understanding of the universe?

The difference between perceived and actual velocity in an expanding universe has important implications for our understanding of the universe. It helps us to better understand the effects of the expansion of the universe and how it affects our observations of objects in the universe. It also allows us to make more accurate measurements and predictions about the evolution of the universe.

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