Perfect Square Polynomial: Finding (a+b) for P(x)=x^4+ax^3+bx^2-8x+1

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The discussion focuses on determining the values of a and b in the polynomial P(x)=x^4+ax^3+bx^2-8x+1, which is required to be a perfect square. It is established that since P(x) involves x^4, it must be the square of a quadratic expression. The participants explore the structure of the polynomial, noting that the first and last terms are perfect squares, while the middle terms must align to form a perfect square. The general form of the quadratic is identified as (x^2 + ux + 1)², leading to a search for values of a, b, and u that satisfy the equation. Ultimately, the conversation reveals the reasoning behind identifying the polynomial as a square of a quadratic and the conditions necessary for it to hold true.
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Homework Statement



If the polynomial P(x)=x^4+ax^3+bx^2-8x+1 is a perfect square then find (a+b)

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The first term is a perfect square and so is the last term. that means that th middle terms should have been =2x^2.
But it is not so, then how can this be a perfect square?
 
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P(x) is a perfect square of what? Since it involves x4, it must be the square of a quadratic. What is (x^2+ ux+ 1)2? What values of a, b, and u make those the same?
 
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HallsofIvy said:
P(x) is a perfect square of what? Since it involves x4[/itex], it must be the square of a quadratic. What is (x^2+ ux+ 1)2? What values of a, b, and u make those the same?


Thanks. I have solved the problem. But will you please tell me how did you figure out that the skeleton expression given was the square of a trinomial?
 
I didn't "figure" that out. The given expression involved x4 so I knew it must be the square of a quadratic. The most general quadratic is ax2+ bx+ c. Then I saw that, in order to get "x4" and "+ 1" I must have a= 1, c= 1. I still did not know what b was so I left that in. I did not know that b was not 0, just that there was no reason to assume it wasn't!
 
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