Periodic potential V(x) -- how can I show that the period is d?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around demonstrating that the period of a periodic potential, specifically in the context of a cosine function, is equal to a specified value, d. The scope includes mathematical reasoning related to periodic functions.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks how to show that the period is d, specifically referencing the cosine function cos(2πx/d) and suggesting to evaluate the function at multiples of d to identify the full cycle.
  • Another participant states that if a function f(x) has a period of d, then f(x) = f(x + d) for all x, and suggests substituting x with x + d to explore the implications.
  • This participant also notes that while d is established as a period, further reasoning is required to confirm that it is the smallest period, as larger multiples of d could also be periods.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present differing levels of understanding regarding the identification of the smallest period, with some acknowledging the need for additional reasoning to establish that d is indeed the smallest period.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the definition of the smallest period and the implications of periodicity in the context of the cosine function.

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how can i show that period is d

for cos (2πx/d), change the values of x in terms of d, i.e. 0.1d, 0.2d ... etc... When do you get the full cycle?

BTW, this is math, not physics.

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If ##f(x)## has a period of ##d## then ##f(x) = f(x + d)## for all ##x##.

Change ##x## to ##x + d##. See what happens.

I should note that this only establishes the ##d## is a period. If you shift a sine wave of period ##T## by 10 periods, you get the same sine wave, so ##10T## is a period but not the smallest period. You have to do a little more reasoning to establish that ##d## is the smallest period.
 
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