Perturbation theory question (in Quarks & Leptons)

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of nonrelativistic perturbation theory and the transition amplitude (T_fi) derived from it in the relativistic Klein-Gordon equation. The book uses the fact that the Schroedinger equation is first order in time for the derivation of T_fi, but in the next chapter, the Klein-Gordon equation is investigated, which is second order in time. The person asks how this is possible and the response explains that in quantum mechanics, the equations are always first order in time. However, in quantum field theory, the field and the wave-function are distinguished and a Hamiltonian is used to generate the first-order equations for the wave-functional. It is customary to hide the state and refer only
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I'm referring to the book Quarks and Leptons (Halzen, Martin). On pages 79-82 nonrelativistic perturbation theory is investigated (i.e. by using the Schroedinger equation, which is first order in time). On Page 85, however, the transition amplitude (T_fi) is used that has been derived on pages 79-82. However, in this chapter (chapter 4) the Klein-Gordon equation is investigated (which is relativistic as well as second order in time).
How can this be right?

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why should it be wrong?
 
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Well , the derivation of T_fi (on pages 79-82) uses the fact that the Schroedinger equation is first order in time. If a second order equation is substituted, a differential equation for the coefficients (a_f) results that is quite different from the simple differential equation that results from a first order equation.

In addition it is written in the book that these derivation is (only) a recapitulation of non-relativistic perturbation theory. However, then it is used in the next chapter for the (relativistic) Klein Gordon equation (without any mention as to why this is applicable).

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Quantum mechanics is always first order in time. In QFT you need to distinguish between the field and the wave-function, which actually turns into a wave-functional. The equations of motion for the field is turned into a Lagrangian, and then into a Hamiltonian, and it is this Hamiltonian that generates the first-order equations for the wave-functional. It is customary, however, to starting hiding the state when talking about QFT, and instead refer only to the operators. In that case, the field is a field of operators, and one can write a 2nd order differential equation for it; states are then referred to by the operators used to construct them from the vacuum state.
 

1. What is perturbation theory?

Perturbation theory is a mathematical tool used to solve problems in physics, particularly in quantum mechanics. It involves breaking down a complex problem into simpler parts and then using iterative methods to find an approximate solution.

2. How does perturbation theory apply to quarks and leptons?

In quantum field theory, perturbation theory is used to calculate the interactions between particles, including quarks and leptons. It allows scientists to make predictions about the behavior of these fundamental particles, such as their energy levels and decay rates.

3. What is the significance of perturbation theory in particle physics?

Perturbation theory is a crucial tool in understanding the behavior of particles and their interactions. It has been used to make predictions that have been confirmed by experiments, providing evidence for the existence of particles such as the Higgs boson.

4. What are the limitations of perturbation theory?

While perturbation theory has been successful in many cases, it does have limitations. It can only be applied to systems that are close to equilibrium, and as the perturbation becomes larger, the approximation becomes less accurate. In addition, it does not account for non-perturbative effects, such as the creation of new particles.

5. How is perturbation theory related to Feynman diagrams?

Feynman diagrams are a graphical representation of perturbation theory calculations. Each line in the diagram represents a particle, and the vertices represent interactions between particles. By using Feynman diagrams, scientists can visualize and calculate the complex interactions between particles predicted by perturbation theory.

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