PF Nexus skin deprecation

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I alsonoticed the "Y" and "T" just now, and I must admit I am not thrilled either. I like Moonbears suggestion, if it's not too complicated to implement.
But are the words "Today" and "Yesterday" really too long? I doubt even the word "Yesterday" spelled in full will be much longer than something like "12.13.07, 08:04" so it would probably only be like 4 or 5 characters wider; space which seems to be available.
 
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I bet in a few days/weeks everyone will have stopped noticing the Ts and Ys and will just associate with with today and yesterday.
 
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While the T and Y are not the most visually appealing,
the existence of timestamp is, by far, the best aspect and is most appreciated.

Some suggestions:
for today's posts: 12:34 (just the time... T is unncessary)
for yesterday's posts: Y 23:45 (the time is somewhat useful, especially when I'm on at 1am)
for earlier posts: 12.01.07 (just the date)

These are suggestions for the lists of latest posts in the forum...
not for the posts themselves when viewing the thread.
To keep them de-coupled, I suspect that this might require changes in the code at places different from where it has been recently changed.

...but I'm appreciative of the present layout. It works for me. Thanks.
 
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One more option: if (now - timestamp < 24 hours) then show the time, else show the date. A posted time that exceeds the current time is easily understood to be yesterday's. However I'm not sure if this would end up being clear or confusing. It may require posting the current time somewhere to prevent confusion due to different time zones. Maybe not, opinions welcomed.

But whatever format is used in the end, it should be consistent on all pages for the sake of clarity as well as ease of coding (single time formatting function).

Finally, for the sake of international clarity, dropping the US-specific date (dis)ordering should be considered. I think the yyyy-mm-dd format is universally understood.
 
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Finally, for the sake of international clarity, dropping the US-specific date (dis)ordering should be considered. I think the yyyy-mm-dd format is universally understood.
I was just about to request that. Either that, or an option to choose the format would be helpful. :smile:
 
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One more option: if (now - timestamp < 24 hours) then show the time, else show the date. A posted time that exceeds the current time is easily understood to be yesterday's. However I'm not sure if this would end up being clear or confusing. It may require posting the current time somewhere to prevent confusion due to different time zones. Maybe not, opinions welcomed.
I think that would get extremely confusing!

But whatever format is used in the end, it should be consistent on all pages for the sake of clarity as well as ease of coding (single time formatting function).

Finally, for the sake of international clarity, dropping the US-specific date (dis)ordering should be considered. I think the yyyy-mm-dd format is universally understood.
I don't think that's necessary either. I wasn't familiar with the US date conventions when I first joined, but it takes (like the Y and T) a few days to get used to.
 
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I think that would get extremely confusing!

Yeah, on further consideration its not the brightest idea... :redface:

I wasn't familiar with the US date conventions when I first joined, but it takes (like the Y and T) a few days to get used to.

Speaking of confusing... Yes, I've seen the US date format all my life, but also other date formats. When I come across 03.04.05 :confused: I have to check the source to know if it means 2003-APRIL-05, 2005-APRIL-03 or 2005-MARCH-04. It's not hard to lose track when you go from one document to the other and I got it wrong a few times. But then, everyone seems to agree on what 2005-04-03 means. What reason can there be to use anything else on an international forum?
 
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Well considering the majority of the world uses dd/mm/yyyy it should be that.

The T and the Y I've already gotten used to and if its needed to keep the overall aesthetics of the site in check I don't mind. The time stamps were something I always loved from the Nexus skin. They are much more useful.
 
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I support http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-time.html" [Broken].
 
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Yeah, on further consideration its not the brightest idea... :redface:



Speaking of confusing... Yes, I've seen the US date format all my life, but also other date formats. When I come across 03.04.05 :confused: I have to check the source to know if it means 2003-APRIL-05, 2005-APRIL-03 or 2005-MARCH-04. It's not hard to lose track when you go from one document to the other and I got it wrong a few times. But then, everyone seems to agree on what 2005-04-03 means. What reason can there be to use anything else on an international forum?

While I personally use yyyy-mm-dd to label versions of files and while it is more logical,
I find it visually more appealing to read (especially when scanning quickly) dd-mm-yyyy or the more familiar but less-logical mm-dd-yyyy... since most of the years will be the same.

For me, the goal of the timestamps in the list of recent posts
is to identify the most-recent and most-active discussions.
(Since I'm daydreaming... let me go on to say that it would be
cool to have some color coding to indicate the level of recent activity ("hot topic") based on the rate of recent-postings rather than the number of posts. [I haven't decoded the envelope-symbols on the left column.] It would also be nice to see some kind of "quality of discussion" rating as seen in http://www.fatwallet.com/c/18/ ..maybe one-vote per user, like the Photo Contests... maybe more weight to votes by Mentors etc...)
 
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