Phasor Problem: Convert i(rt), i(ct) from i(t)

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The discussion revolves around the conversion of current expressions in phasor form, specifically how to derive i(rt) and i(ct) from a given current i(t). The context includes elements of circuit analysis involving resistors and capacitors, with a focus on phasor representation and the relationships between voltage and current in AC circuits.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant queries how to derive i(rt) = 0.35A cos(wt + 30) and i(ct) = 0.2A cos(wt + 120) from the initial current i = 0.4A cos(wt + 60).
  • Another participant provides a voltage expression v = 30V (cos 30 + j sin 30) but does not clarify its relation to the current.
  • A participant notes that the circuit consists of a capacitor and resistor but does not specify their configuration.
  • One participant suggests that a clearer description of the circuit configuration is necessary to understand the relationships between the components and the angles of current.
  • Another participant expresses confusion regarding the derivation of the current values and emphasizes that the problem lacks a clear circuit diagram.
  • There is a discussion about the possible configurations of the circuit and whether the voltage expression is correctly represented at time t=0 or in phasor form.
  • A participant introduces the concept of complex analysis in relation to phasors and provides links for further reading.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the derivation of the current expressions or the configuration of the circuit. Multiple viewpoints and uncertainties remain regarding the relationships between the components and the voltage expression.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of a clear circuit diagram and the need for additional information about the configuration of the resistor and capacitor, which may affect the analysis. There are also unresolved questions about the correct representation of the voltage in phasor form.

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for i = 0.4A cos (wt + 60) , how do we get i(rt) =0.35A cos(wt + 30) and then i(ct) = 0.2A cos(wt+ 120) ??
 
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v = 30V (cos 30 + j sin30) is given
 
the circuit consists of capacitor and resistor
 
A good way to present a problem like this is to describe the circuit as best as you can. With your third post, it appears you have power supply V and a capacitor and resistor connected in some fashion. How is your resistor and capacitor connected?

You gave in your first post that the current thru your resistor is at a different angle [itex]\theta[/itex] compared with your capacitor. Do you notice anything special about the difference between the two angles?
 
no,there is just a z and the current and voltage is given,not even a circuit.
the current for capacitor and resistor is the answer and i don't understand how they got the answer
 
There are several possible configurations between input and output, based on two components (which component, resistor or capacitor, is first) and configurations series vs parallel vs T.

Is this correct - v = 30V (cos 30 + j sin30) ? Is this at time, t=0?

or should it be 30V (cos (wt+30) + j sin (wt+30)) = 30V e j (wt+30)?

Then look at the voltage v, and see if it is phase with the current in the resistor.

Welcome to the world of complex analysis.

See also - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phasor_(electronics)

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Electronics:Phasors
 
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