Photoelectric Effect - Variables

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The discussion revolves around the photoelectric effect, specifically investigating the impact of different types of radiation on Sodium metal. Participants are exploring the identification of independent and dependent variables in the context of an experiment involving the emission of light and its effects on photoelectrons.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

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  • Participants are attempting to identify the independent variable as the frequency of light and the dependent variable as the Stopping Voltage. There is also a discussion about the importance of preparing the Sodium surface to avoid impurities that could affect results. Questions are raised regarding the role of the threshold frequency as a dependent variable and the implications of surface preparation on experimental outcomes.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and questioning each other's assumptions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between frequency, stopping voltage, and the threshold frequency, although there is still some confusion that remains to be clarified.

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Participants note the chemical reactivity of Sodium and the necessity of removing surface layers to ensure accurate experimental results. There is an emphasis on the effects of impurities and surface conditions on the measurements taken during the experiment.

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1. A scientist is investigating the effect of different types of radiation on the surface of a piece of Sodium metal. He uses a freshly cut surface on a Sodium plate.



2. a) Which of the variables is the dependent and independent variables?
b) Why must the surface of the Sodium metal be carefully prepared?




3. a) I assume that the independent variable is the frequency of the light being emitted and the dependent variable is the Stopping Voltage.
b) I believe that the metal should be prepared carefully so as to avoid any impurities being found on the metal hence effecting overall experimental results. Am I correct for both questions?


Any help will be appreciated.
 
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Pinchy444 said:
a) I assume that the independent variable is the frequency of the light being emitted and the dependent variable is the Stopping Voltage.

Do not forget the threshold frequency as dependent variable.

Pinchy444 said:
b) I believe that the metal should be prepared carefully so as to avoid any impurities being found on the metal hence effecting overall experimental results. Am I correct for both questions?

Think of the chemical properties of sodium. It is very active, and it reacts easily by oxygen. If the surface layer is not removed before the experiment the photons interact with that layer first before reaching the sodium metal. Also the photoelectrons emitted can be trapped by the imperfections of the surface as you wrote and by the layer.

ehild
 
ehild said:
Do not forget the threshold frequency as dependent variable.

I have the independent variable as Frequency of light and dependent as Stopping Voltage. I don't understand how the threshold frequency is the dependent variable? Could you please explain further?

Appreciate it,
 
In the experiment, you measure current of the photoelectrons. Starting from law frequency light and increasing frequency, you get zero current below a specific frequency - the threshold frequency. That is, when the energy of the photons is equal to the work function.
When you detect current at all, you can change the voltage (you can consider voltage also an independent variable) and detect the stopping voltage when the photocurrent becomes zero. So the primary dependent variable is the current of photoelectrons.

ehild
 
Awesome!

Appreciate the help.
 

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