Physical Chemistry: Adiabatic Expansion of Clouds at Altitude

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The discussion focuses on the adiabatic expansion of a cloud as it rises from 2000m to 3500m altitude, analyzing the temperature change and moisture retention. The initial temperature is 288K, and the pressures at the two altitudes are 0.802 atm and 0.602 atm, respectively. The user attempts to calculate the final temperature using the ideal gas law and relationships involving specific heat capacities. Feedback suggests reversing the order of integration steps and emphasizes a more direct approach using the ideal gas law. The question of whether the cloud will drop moisture remains unresolved, inviting further input on that aspect.
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Cloud moves from alt. 2000m (P = 0.802atm) to 3500m (P = 0.602) when it encounters a mountain. It expands adiabatically. The initial temp is 288K, CP,m for the air is 28.86 J/Kmol (assume ideal). What is the final temp and will it drop it's moisture?The attempt at a solution
This is what I did. CV,m = CP,m - R
CV,mdT = -\frac{RT}{V}dV
\intCV,mdT = \int-\frac{RT}{V}dV divide by T
CV,m\int\frac{1}{T}dT = -R\int\frac{1}{V}dV
CV,mln(\frac{T2}{T1}) = R ln(\frac{V1}{V2}) rearrange
T2 = T1(V1/V2)R/CV,m this to solve for T2, but 2 variables, so...

P1V1\gamma = P2V2\gamma solve for the ratio V1/V2
\frac{V1}{V2} = (\frac{P2}{P1})1/\gamma

T2 = T1 ((\frac{P2}{P1})1/\gamma)R/CV,m

CV,m = CP,m - R = 20.546 \gamma = CP,m/CV,m = 1.405

T2 = 288 ((\frac{0.602}{0.802})1/1.405)8.314/20.546 = 265KSomeone please tell me if I did this right, if not, what did I do wrong...and how do I know if it will drop moisture?

This is my first HW question in Pchem I and only the 2nd week of the semester, so please explain anything so I can understand it.
 
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You should reverse the order of your first and second steps. Divide by T before integrating. Once the integral signs are there, you can't just divide to move variables from one side of the equation to the other. Your solution otherwise looks okay, but you could have done it more directly by simply using just the ideal gas law and the relationship PV^\gamma=c, where c is a constant.

I don't know about the moisture. Perhaps someone else can chime in on that part of the problem.
 
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