Physical interpretation of this integral equation involving distance and time?

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of an integral equation involving distance and time, specifically focusing on the relationship between position (x) and time (t) in the context of calculus. Participants explore how to understand the physical meaning of the integral and its components.

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  • Some participants attempt to clarify the physical interpretation of the integral, questioning how the variables relate to concepts of position and time. Others suggest that the integral may not necessarily have a physical interpretation and could simply be a calculus exercise.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the integral. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of variables in integrals, and there is recognition that not all mathematical problems require a physical context.

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Participants are navigating the challenge of interpreting mathematical expressions in a physical context, while also acknowledging that some problems may exist purely within the realm of mathematics without a direct application to physical scenarios.

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Homework Statement
I have been given a generic question, however I don't know how to interpret it if the variables had an assigned meaning.
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f'(x) = ##\frac{d}{dx}## (##\int## ##\frac{1-t^2}{1+t^2}## *dt). The integral has the limits 0-x.
I am able to solve the problem however if x was position and t was time how is this problem interpreted?

I know, for example that ##\frac{dx}{dt}## tells us how the position of something changes as time changes (or instantaneous change) and an integral gives a net change so to speak.
 
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Irishdoug said:
I am able to solve the problem however if x was position and t was time how is this problem interpreted?

I know, for example that ##\frac{dx}{dt}## tells us how the position of something changes as time changes (or instantaneous change) and an integral gives a net change so to speak.

You can easily write ##\int_0^x (1-t^2)/(1+t^2) \, dt##; just right-click on the image to see the LaTeX commands.

Anyway, why should ##f(x)## and/or ##f'(x)## have any particular "interpretation"? Maybe this is just a problem in calculus without any interpretation or without any relation to distance and time.
 
Im asking more so about the RHS of the equation. The reason I want to know how to interpret it as I do physics and equations require a physical interpretation.
 
Irishdoug said:
Im asking more so about the RHS of the equation. The reason I want to know how to interpret it as I do physics and equations require a physical interpretation.

If the integral arises in some "application" in physics, engineering, chemistry, biology, economics, ... then you may be able to come up with a reasonable interpretation. If it is just a calculus practice-example there may not be any interpretation, and you are wasting your time looking for one. It would be much, much better to just realize that calculus is a branch of mathematics that is widely applicable to numerous fields and situations, and that not everything need be related to physics. Equations definitely do NOT need a physical interpretation, although you may find it difficult to accept this. Basically, I am saying that you are hindering your own learning process by constantly trying to give a physical interpretation to everything. (I say this as somebody who earned a PhD in physics from MIT.)
 
Ok thanks for the heads up!
 
Irishdoug said:
I am able to solve the problem however if x was position and t was time how is this problem interpreted?

I know, for example that ##\frac{dx}{dt}## tells us how the position of something changes as time changes (or instantaneous change) and an integral gives a net change so to speak.

##t## looks more like a dummy integration variable here than time. For example, you can (almost) write:

##f(x) = \int_0^x g(x) dx##

But, technically, you are using ##x## as both the dummy integration variable and the variable for which your function is defined.

In general it's better to use different symbols for the two variables. For example:

##f(x) = \int_0^x g(x') dx' = \int_0^x g(u) du##

Or, in your case, ##t## is used as the dummy variable.
 
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