Physics 12 Help- Electomagnetism and Torque

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The discussion centers on solving a physics problem related to electromagnetism and torque, specifically using the formula Torque = NIAB, which is not included in the school's approved formula sheet. Participants express the need to derive this formula for proper understanding. It is noted that the problem should be approached using equilibrium equations and basic electromagnetism principles without incorporating torque directly. Suggestions for additional resources, such as HyperPhysics, are provided for further clarification. The conversation emphasizes the importance of adhering to the approved formulas while seeking alternative methods to solve the problem.
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Homework Statement


If you were given this question: http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/975/picture7we.png
how would you go about solving it?




Homework Equations


I found a formula that makes this question seem a lot easier. Torque = NIAB. however, this formula is not on the formula sheet that is approved by the school so I am not supposed to know about it unless i figure out how to derive it. Does anyone know how this formula was derived?


The Attempt at a Solution

 
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sweatpants said:

Homework Statement


If you were given this question: http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/975/picture7we.png
how would you go about solving it?




Homework Equations


I found a formula that makes this question seem a lot easier. Torque = NIAB. however, this formula is not on the formula sheet that is approved by the school so I am not supposed to know about it unless i figure out how to derive it. Does anyone know how this formula was derived?


The Attempt at a Solution


Try http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/magmom.html
 
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Dick said:

Hmmm. I've never actually heard of a magnetic dipole moment or its potential energy. Apparently this question is supposed to be solved using solely equilibrium equations and electromagnetism equations which don't already include torque.

Thanks for trying to help though.
 
sweatpants said:
Hmmm. I've never actually heard of a magnetic dipole moment or its potential energy. Apparently this question is supposed to be solved using solely equilibrium equations and electromagnetism equations which don't already include torque.

Thanks for trying to help though.

Is Force = Current x Length x B-field on your approved formula sheet?

Of course, you'll need to add the equation for torque to come up with the answer.
 
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