Physics and Fluids: Accelerating Particles in a Fluid

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The discussion focuses on calculating the time required for a particle to accelerate to 95% of its terminal velocity in a fluid, considering the drag force proportional to its speed. Participants clarify the forces acting on the particle, identifying gravity and drag as key components. The equation derived from Newton's Second Law is W - kV = m(dV/dt), where W represents the net weight and kV the drag force. The conversation emphasizes the need to rearrange and integrate this equation to find the desired time. Overall, the thread provides guidance on setting up the problem and solving it through integration.
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Homework Statement



Very small particles moving in fluids are known to experience a drag force proportional to speed. Consider a particle of net weight W dropped in a fluid. The particle experiences a drag force, Fd = kV, where V is the particle speed. Determine the time required for the particle to accelerate from rest to 95% of its terminal velocity, Vt, in terms of k, W, and g.

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Newtons Second Law of motion, etc.

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I tried to sum forces, etc. but didn't really get anywhere...
 
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What forces act on the particle?
 
i wrote the question verbatim, so i will assume a drag force (and a force of flowing fluid?)
i can write the answer if it helps, but it's useless without the method.
 
allezfou said:
i wrote the question verbatim, so i will assume a drag force
Right. An expression for that is given.
(and a force of flowing fluid?)
That's the drag force.

What other force, also given, acts on the particle?
 
there is a force on the particle moving it forward and the drag force
 
allezfou said:
there is a force on the particle moving it forward
Yes. What is that force?
 
i don't know.
 
allezfou said:
i don't know.
Hint: It's one of the variables that your answer must be expressed in terms of. :wink:
 
gravity.
 
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allezfou said:
gravity.
Of course! Now write an equation using Newton's 2nd law.
 
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so am i assuming a vertical pipe with fluid in it?

kV-mg=ma. we don't want it in terms of acceleration so we use a=dV/dt.
 
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allezfou said:
so am i assuming a vertical pipe with fluid in it?
It's just a particle placed in some fluid and allowed to fall.
kV-mg=ma. we don't want it in terms of acceleration so we use a=dV/dt.
Good. I would switch the signs around, so that "down" is positive (since you know it's going to fall down).
 
  • #13
mg-kV=m dV/dt. the net weight is W, which is also mg.
W-kV=m dV/dt
 
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allezfou said:
mg-kV=m dV/dt. the net weight is W, which is also mg.
W-kV=m dV/dt
Good. Now just rearrange and integrate.
 
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