Physics Major Schedule: Modern vs. Classical Mechanics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the scheduling of modern physics and classical mechanics courses for physics majors, specifically whether taking them concurrently is advisable. Participants express concerns about the interdependence of the subjects and the potential workload involved.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the feasibility of taking modern physics and classical mechanics in the same semester, expressing concerns about needing to understand modern physics to grasp classical mechanics.
  • Another participant argues that classical mechanics is independent and will provide essential tools like Lagrangians and Hamiltonians that are relevant for quantum mechanics, suggesting that modern physics will focus more on concepts than on abstract calculations.
  • A different participant notes that it is common for physics students to take classes in different areas simultaneously, indicating that while it may be challenging, students typically adapt.
  • One participant expresses a desire to manage their schedule effectively, indicating adaptability to handle the workload.
  • A participant raises the idea of taking quantum mechanics alongside nuclear, elementary particle, atomic, molecular, and condensed matter physics classes, questioning the practicality of such a schedule.
  • Another participant reiterates the possibility of taking multiple advanced physics classes concurrently, noting that such scheduling is common in their country.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the advisability of taking modern physics and classical mechanics together, with some asserting independence between the subjects while others highlight potential challenges. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal scheduling of these courses.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the interdependence of modern and classical mechanics, and there are varying opinions on the manageability of taking multiple advanced physics classes at once.

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Should I take modern physics and classical mechanics in the same semester? Or is that a bad idea. And my concerns are mostly about needing to understand stuff from modern to understand classical. Thank you
 
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They are quite independent - classical mechanics will teach you how to work with Lagrangian's and Hamiltonian's which are required for quantum mechanics; you will do a lot of partial derivatives, and hopefully learn about the calculus of variations.

Modern physics will cover a lot of - surprise! - modern physics! But it will emphasize the _physics_ and not the abstract calculations that are required for analytical mechanics or quantum mechanics. You should learn about quanta from the earliest physical experiments such as the photoelectric effect, the idea of photons, how a laser works, atomic spectra, electronic transitions, etc -- then some nuclear physics (E=mc^2 and more), and some relativity. It can be a great class.

I don't see a problem taking both as long as you are not otherwise overloaded.
 
It's typical for a physics student to concurrently take classes that focus on completely different areas and scales. It can be a bit mind-bending but you'll adjust.
 
Thank you I appreciate your input, I just hope my schedule won't be too overwhelming. I am adaptable tho so I should be fine!
 
how about taking a quantum mechanics class, nuclear and elementary particle , Atomic, Molecular, and Condensed Matter physics class at the same time?
 
epislon58 said:
how about taking a quantum mechanics class, nuclear and elementary particle , Atomic, Molecular, and Condensed Matter physics class at the same time?

Atomic physics, Particle physics and Condensed Matter physics are given in the same semester, atleast in my country.
 

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