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Knowing that virtual particles appear and disappear at the Planck length, what is the effect of the annihilation on space-time where the particles used to be?
DGator86 said:Knowing that virtual particles appear and disappear at the Planck length
DGator86 said:what is the effect of the annihilation on space-time where the particles used to be?
PeterDonis said:We don't know this. It's a reasonable speculation
DGator86 said:guess what I am trying to ask is if virtual particles are popping in and out of existence in any theoretical framework
Vanadium 50 said:this is a counting experiment
DGator86 said:if virtual particles are popping in and out of existence in any theoretical framework, what happens to the space once occupied by the matter?
DGator86 said:do these virtual particles have theoretical mass?
DGator86 said:I understand that they are a result of particle interactions and can in some ways act as true particles.
From the book "The Quantum Story: A history in 40 moments" by Jim Baggott:DGator86 said:I guess what I am trying to ask is if virtual particles are popping in and out of existence in any theoretical framework, what happens to the space once occupied by the matter?
kurt101 said:From the book "The Quantum Story: A history in 40 moments" by Jim Baggott
kurt101 said:The photons created and destroyed in the virtual processes described by the Feynman diagrams carry away some of the mass of the electron
DGator86 said:I guess what I am trying to ask is if virtual particles are popping in and out of existence in any theoretical framework
PeterDonis said:so I'm not sure if "counting experiment" is a reasonable description of what the OP is thinking.
PeterDonis said:I don't know where this author is getting this from, but it's not correct. The electron mass is renormalized, and virtual particle processes contribute to that, but this is not properly described as virtual photons "carrying away some of the mass" of the electron. The mass of the electron is what it is; having to renormalize it in the model is an issue with the model, not the actual electron.
kurt101 said:reality seems to indicate there actually is fluctuations in energy
kurt101 said:... virtual particle contributions ...
kurt101 said:From the book "The Quantum Story: A history in 40 moments" by Jim Baggott:
"The photons created and destroyed in the virtual processes described by the Feynman diagrams carry away some of the mass of the electron but leave its charge unchanged, affecting the electron's magnetic moment."
kurt101 said:What about the lamb shift?
PeterDonis said:I haven't seen the OP describe any experiment, so I'm not sure if "counting experiment" is a reasonable description of what the OP is thinking.
Your question is based on a mistaken premise. Virtual particles are not "popping in and out of existence" in the sense you mean.
This is really a meaningless question, since virtual particles are not on the mass shell, so there is no way of defining what their "mass" would even mean.
Then you understand incorrectly. Where are you getting your understanding from?
No.diPoleMoment said:So I was wondering, if virtual particles are just not seen. Could that be from time not reduced to a small enough division...