Plane flying at an angle, trying to find radius

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The discussion centers on calculating the radius of a circular path for a plane banking at 50° while maintaining a speed of 480 km/h. The initial approach incorrectly assumed vertical equilibrium, leading to errors in the lift force calculations. After realizing the mistake, participants emphasized the importance of unit conversion and clarifying the problem statement. The correct formula for radius involves adjusting for the banking angle and speed, which was initially misapplied. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the need for careful consideration of forces in non-equilibrium scenarios when solving physics problems.
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Homework Statement


To change the direction of the plane, its wings are banked. If the wings of the plane are banked 50.0° to the horizontal, what is the radius of the circle in which the plane will be flying? Assume that the speed remains 480.0 km/h during the turn and that the magnitude of the lift provided by the wings is unchanged.



Homework Equations


m = 13900kg (given previous to this problem) but I do not think this comes into play

The Attempt at a Solution


I said that the forceof the lift = L. the sum of forces in the y direction = Lcos50 = mg. The sum of forces in the x direction = Lsin50 = (mv^2)/r. Solving both equations for L and then setting these expressions equal to each other, I eventually came to r = (v^2)/gtan50, giving me an answer of 19,707km. The computer keeps telling me I am incorrect.

Any help would be appreciated
 
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Be careful with units. That speed is given in km/hour--convert to standard units.
 
still wrong
 
that gave me an answer of 1521m, which seems kind of small anyway
 
I_LuV_FiZiX said:
that gave me an answer of 1521m, which seems kind of small anyway
Looks right to me.
 
so do you think that it could possibly be an error with the computer? I can't see any mistake I have made.
 
It wouldn't surprise me, as those systems can be fussy. What units does it want? How many significant figures?
 
It does no specify what units it wants, or how many significant figures. I have tried many combinations of both.
 
Oops. I missed the implication of this:
I_LuV_FiZiX said:
Assume that the speed remains 480.0 km/h during the turn and that the magnitude of the lift provided by the wings is unchanged.
So the following is incorrect:
I said that the forceof the lift = L. the sum of forces in the y direction = Lcos50 = mg.
This (the last sentence) is not true. Once the plane banks there is no longer vertical equilibrium.

My bad! :redface:

Your bad: Please post the entire problem.

(Thanks to alphysicist for waking me up! :smile:)
 

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