Plane flying at an angle, trying to find radius

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The problem involves a plane banking at an angle of 50.0° to change direction while maintaining a speed of 480.0 km/h. The goal is to determine the radius of the circular path the plane will fly, considering the lift force and gravitational force acting on the plane.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between lift, gravitational force, and the banking angle. There are attempts to derive the radius using force equations, but some participants question the assumptions about vertical equilibrium when the plane is banked.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on calculations and questioning the assumptions made in the original setup. Some guidance has been offered regarding unit conversions and the implications of banking on force equilibrium.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the required units and significant figures for the answer, as the problem does not specify these details. Additionally, participants are exploring the implications of the banking angle on the forces acting on the plane.

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Homework Statement


To change the direction of the plane, its wings are banked. If the wings of the plane are banked 50.0° to the horizontal, what is the radius of the circle in which the plane will be flying? Assume that the speed remains 480.0 km/h during the turn and that the magnitude of the lift provided by the wings is unchanged.



Homework Equations


m = 13900kg (given previous to this problem) but I do not think this comes into play

The Attempt at a Solution


I said that the forceof the lift = L. the sum of forces in the y direction = Lcos50 = mg. The sum of forces in the x direction = Lsin50 = (mv^2)/r. Solving both equations for L and then setting these expressions equal to each other, I eventually came to r = (v^2)/gtan50, giving me an answer of 19,707km. The computer keeps telling me I am incorrect.

Any help would be appreciated
 
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Be careful with units. That speed is given in km/hour--convert to standard units.
 
still wrong
 
that gave me an answer of 1521m, which seems kind of small anyway
 
I_LuV_FiZiX said:
that gave me an answer of 1521m, which seems kind of small anyway
Looks right to me.
 
so do you think that it could possibly be an error with the computer? I can't see any mistake I have made.
 
It wouldn't surprise me, as those systems can be fussy. What units does it want? How many significant figures?
 
It does no specify what units it wants, or how many significant figures. I have tried many combinations of both.
 
Oops. I missed the implication of this:
I_LuV_FiZiX said:
Assume that the speed remains 480.0 km/h during the turn and that the magnitude of the lift provided by the wings is unchanged.
So the following is incorrect:
I said that the forceof the lift = L. the sum of forces in the y direction = Lcos50 = mg.
This (the last sentence) is not true. Once the plane banks there is no longer vertical equilibrium.

My bad! :redface:

Your bad: Please post the entire problem.

(Thanks to alphysicist for waking me up! :smile:)
 

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