Point of Intersection involving logarithms

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To find the point of intersection between y=log2(2x) and y=log4(x), the equations were set equal, leading to the expression 2x=2^log4(x). A key insight was to rewrite the base of the logarithm for simplification, which helped clarify the calculations. Ultimately, the correct solutions were found to be x=1/4, while x=0 was excluded due to domain restrictions. The discussion emphasized the importance of choosing appropriate bases for logarithmic equations to facilitate solving.
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Homework Statement


Solve for the point of intersection between ##y=\log_{2}{(2x)}## and ##y=\log_{4}{(x)}##

Homework Equations


3. The Attempt at a Solution [/B]
Setting the two equations equal:
$$\log_{2}{(2x)}=\log_{4}{(x)}\\
2x=2^{\log_{4}{(x)}} \\
2^{2x}=4^{\log_{4}{(x)}}\\
2x=2\log_{4}{(x)}\\
x=\log_{4}{(x)} \\
4^x=x \\ $$
I'm really confused and I'm pretty sure I've done something wrong at this point.
 
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Potatochip911 said:

Homework Statement


Solve for the point of intersection between ##y=\log_{2}{(2x)}## and ##y=\log_{4}{(x)}##

Homework Equations


3. The Attempt at a Solution [/B]
Setting the two equations equal:
$$\log_{2}{(2x)}=\log_{4}{(x)}\\
2x=2^{\log_{4}{(x)}} \\ On the right hand side, write 2 as 41/2 .
2^{2x}=4^{\log_{4}{(x)}}\\
2x=2\log_{4}{(x)}\\
x=\log_{4}{(x)} \\
4^x=x \\ $$
I'm really confused and I'm pretty sure I've done something wrong at this point.
You're right about that.

If you use each side of
##\displaystyle \ 2x=2^{\log_{4}{(x)}}\ ##​
as the exponent with a base of 2, you get
##\displaystyle \ 2^{2x}=2^{\left(\displaystyle {2^{\log_{4}{(x)}}}\right)}\ ##​

Furthermore,
##\displaystyle \ \left({2^{2}}\right)^{\log_{4}{(x)}}\ne2^{\left(\displaystyle {2^{\log_{4}{(x)}}}\right)}\ ##​
 
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SammyS said:
You're right about that.

If you use each side of
##\displaystyle \ 2x=2^{\log_{4}{(x)}}\ ##​
as the exponent with a base of 2, you get
##\displaystyle \ 2^{2x}=2^{\left(\displaystyle {2^{\log_{4}{(x)}}}\right)}\ ##​

Furthermore,
##\displaystyle \ \left({2^{2}}\right)^{\log_{4}{(x)}}\ne2^{\left(\displaystyle {2^{\log_{4}{(x)}}}\right)}\ ##​
Managed to get the correct answer after rewriting ##2## as ##4^{1/2}## like you mentioned. $$2x=2^{\log_{4}{(x)}} \\
2^{2x}=2^{2^{\log_{4}{(x)}}}\\
2^{2x}=2^{4^{1/2 \cdot \log_{4}{(x)}}}\\
2^{2x}=2^{x^{1/2}} \\
2x-\sqrt{x}=0 \\
\sqrt{x}(2\sqrt{x}-1)=0 $$ Giving x=0 and x=1/4, with x=0 not being a solution since it's not in the domain, thanks for the help!
 
Potatochip911 said:

Homework Statement


Solve for the point of intersection between ##y=\log_{2}{(2x)}## and ##y=\log_{4}{(x)}##

Homework Equations


3. The Attempt at a Solution [/B]
Setting the two equations equal:
$$\log_{2}{(2x)}=\log_{4}{(x)}\\
2x=2^{\log_{4}{(x)}}$$
A suggestion to make things a bit easier is:

Rather than using 2 as the base, use 4 as the base. Then change the base on the left hand side to 22 .

##\ \left(2^2\right)^{\log_{2}{(2x)}} =2^{\log_{2}{(4x^2)}}=\,? \ ##
 
SammyS said:
A suggestion to make things a bit easier is:

Rather than using 2 as the base, use 4 as the base. Then change the base on the left hand side to 22 .

##\ \left(2^2\right)^{\log_{2}{(2x)}} =2^{\log_{2}{(4x^2)}}=\,? \ ##
Okay it was definitely easier to do it this way.
 
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