Polarization vectors of spin-1 particles

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The discussion revolves around the polarization vectors of spin-1 particles, particularly in the context of particle decays such as ## B \to D^* l \nu ##. Participants explore the conventions used for defining these vectors, their representation in different frames, and the implications for helicity states.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the polarization vectors for the decay process and asks for clarification on the conventions used.
  • Another participant suggests that the discussion may relate to the use of spherical coordinates.
  • A different participant questions the need for polarization vectors, suggesting that internal vector-boson lines represent propagators where any gauge can be chosen.
  • Concerns are raised about the distinction between helicity states for different particles, specifically questioning why the W boson has a time component in its helicity states while the D meson does not.
  • Some participants propose that the helicity basis allows for an easy definition of handedness in terms of the polarization states.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and interpretation of polarization vectors, with no consensus reached on the conventions or their implications for different particles.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions and applications of helicity states, particularly in relation to the spin of the involved particles and the choice of gauge for propagators.

Safinaz
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Hi there,

In the decay of ## B \to D^* l \nu ##, I found that the polarization vectors are described as following:

In the B rest frame the helicity basis

## \bar{\epsilon}(0)= \frac{1}{\sqrt{q^2}} (p_{D^*},0,0,-q_0), \\
\bar{\epsilon}(\pm)=\pm \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} (0,\pm 1,- i,0), \\
\bar{\epsilon}(t)= \frac{1}{\sqrt{q^2}} (q_0,0,0,-p_{D^*}). ##

and the polarization vectors for ## D^*##

## \epsilon(0)= \frac{1}{m_{D^*}} (p_{D^*},0,0,E_{D^*}),\\
\epsilon(\pm)= \mp \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} (0,1,\pm i,0). ##

While for leptons the polarization vectors of W boson into its rest frame:

## \bar{\epsilon}(0)= (0,0,0,-1), \\
\bar{\epsilon}(\pm)= \frac{1}{\sqrt{q^2}} (0,\pm 1,- i,0), \\
\bar{\epsilon}(t)= \frac{1}{\sqrt{q^2}} (1,0 0,0). ##

Have anyone an explanation for this convention ?
I know from Ryder's book for example that the polarization vectors of a massive spin-1 particle are described by 3 components.

Also what is meant by the helicity basis ## \bar{\epsilon} ##, are they different than the polarization vectors of D, B mesons or W ?

Bests.
 
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I think this uses the spherical coordinates?
 
And why that? I thought you in the fourms here have an experience about these calculations..
 
Its just a convention? One points along the Z, two are circular polarizations (those with 1+-i) around the Z axis. Allows you to define handedness in terms of these easily.
 
So why for the W boson helicity states, the time component is mentioned ## \bar{\epsilon} (t) ## while not for the D meson. the spin of D meson is 0 , and for W is 1, while it's often the polarization four vectors of a massive spin-1 particle described by transverse ## \bar{\epsilon} (\pm) ## and longitudinal ## \bar{\epsilon} (0) ## vectors.

Also as B meson the decaying particle, has not it helicity states?

Thanx
 
I don't understand, where you need polarization vectors here. The internal vector-boson lines stand for propagators, for which you can choose any gauge you like. The most convenient one is the Feynman gauge, where the Propgator is simply
$$D_{\mu \nu}(k)=-\frac{g_{\mu \nu}}{k^2-M^2+\mathrm{i} 0^+}.$$
Everything else is given by the Feynman rules and some "Diracology".
 

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