Polarized Light and Quantum Spin

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The discussion centers on the possibility of electromagnetic (EM) radiation exhibiting spin zero. It is noted that while polarized light can have a net zero spin through superposition of left- and right-handed photons, individual photons inherently possess spin values of +1 or -1. The conversation also explores the nature of unpolarized light, which consists of photons with various polarizations lacking a specific order. Ultimately, while EM radiation can have net zero polarization, individual photons cannot possess spin zero due to their massless nature. The topic highlights the complexities of polarization and spin in light behavior.
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Can there be EM radiation with spin zero?

I don't mean that the sum of all spins is zero, as it usually is. My thinking is that all light spins and usually the left and right component is of equal intensity.

Am I correct in thinking that light reflecting off of a suitable horizontal surface, like water, is horizontally polarized because the left and right spinning components reinforce on the horizontal plane and cancel in the vertical plane?
 
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You can have a superposition of left- and right-handed photons with equal amplitude, this gives light without (net) spin, right. It has a linear polarization.
 
mfb said:
You can have a superposition of left- and right-handed photons with equal amplitude, this gives light without (net) spin, right. It has a linear polarization.

OK, so now I'm trying to understand ordinary incoherent light. With polarized light the phase is defined. Is the phase undefined or superposed in ordinary unpolarized light?
 
Unpolarized light just consists of photons of all polarizations without any specific order.
 
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