Polygonal Hamster Wheel with 24901 sides.

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The discussion revolves around a hypothetical scenario involving a polygonal hamster wheel with 24901 sides, each side made from a 1-mile long wooden plank. Participants explore the angular differences between the planks, the perception of flatness versus roundness in large structures, and the implications of these geometrical considerations on human perception.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the angular difference between the planks to be approximately 0.02 degrees, suggesting that this difference is so small that it may not be perceptible to the human eye, depending on eyesight quality.
  • Another participant questions whether a person standing on the wheel would perceive the round object as flat, given the size of the wheel and the small angular difference between planks.
  • A participant connects the discussion to the perception of the Earth, proposing that its large circumference leads to a similar perception of flatness despite its roundness.
  • There is a repeated calculation of the angles involved in the structure of the wheel, emphasizing the technical aspects of the geometry involved.
  • One participant humorously shifts the topic to the dietary habits of hamsters, indicating a light-hearted turn in the conversation.

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Participants express varying views on the perception of flatness versus roundness in large structures, with no clear consensus on whether the angular difference is perceivable or how it relates to the perception of the Earth.

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The discussion includes complex mathematical reasoning and assumptions about human perception, which are not universally agreed upon. The calculations presented depend on the definitions and interpretations of angles and perception in large-scale geometries.

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A Polygon hamster wheel has 24901 sides. Each side is made from a 1 mile long wooden plank(perfectly straight) , 4 feet wide. The planks are placed together, end to end, to form a giant hamster wheel.

You stand on top of this gigantic hamster wheel (on the outside of the wheel,as if balancing on a barrel), right where plank no.1 and plank no.2 meet each other in front of you. Behind you, a mile away ...plank no.24901 meets plank no.1 that you are standing on.

What would the angular difference be between each plank where they meet each other? Would you be able to see that angular difference with your eyes?

Riddle me that.
 
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Imagine drawing lines from each "join" of two planks to the center of the wheel, There are 24901 planks so the entire 360 degrees is divided into 24901 angles each with measure [math]\frac{360}{24901}[/math] degrees. Each angle is the vertex angle of an isosceles triangle. The sum of the angles in any triangle is 180 degrees so the base angles of each triangle have measure [math](180- \frac{360}{24901})/2= \frac{180(24901)- 360}{49802}= \frac{4481820}{49802}= 89.99277[/math]. Since the "join" of two planks involves two of those, 2(89.99277)= 179.98 degrees. That is, of course, very very close to 180 degrees or no "angle" between planks at all. The difference from "straight" is 0.02 degrees. Whether you could "see that angular difference with your eyes would, I imagine, depend upon how good you eyesight is.

Exactly how big is this hamster?
 
I wanted to see if it would be possible for the person (that is standing on this polygon circle of 24901 miles circumference) to perceive the round object it is standing on as "FLAT"...

Would you suggest this would be a possibility ?
So ...if at all...very very few people would be able to see the 0.02 degrees between the two 1 mile long perfectly straight sides..?
 
The reason i am asking someone with much better math knowledge than myself this question..is to satisfy my reasoning about "why people perceive round objects of that size to be flat...when they are indeed round...or polygonal for testing purposes"
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...The Earth is 24901 miles in circumference ...that is why some people perceive it to be "flat" ...when it is actually round.

Do i even make sense...sorry my English and grammar suck.Thank you for your input and valuable knowledge.
 
HallsofIvy said:
Imagine drawing lines from each "join" of two planks to the center of the wheel, There are 24901 planks so the entire 360 degrees is divided into 24901 angles each with measure [math]\frac{360}{24901}[/math] degrees. Each angle is the vertex angle of an isosceles triangle. The sum of the angles in any triangle is 180 degrees so the base angles of each triangle have measure [math](180- \frac{360}{24901})/2= \frac{180(24901)- 360}{49802}= \frac{4481820}{49802}= 89.99277[/math]. Since the "join" of two planks involves two of those, 2(89.99277)= 179.98 degrees. That is, of course, very very close to 180 degrees or no "angle" between planks at all. The difference from "straight" is 0.02 degrees. Whether you could "see that angular difference with your eyes would, I imagine, depend upon how good you eyesight is.

Exactly how big is this hamster?
Forgot your question Sorry...the hamster is on average 5 feet in height.
 
Wow. Now I am going to worry about whether hamsters are vegetarian or carnivorous!
 

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