Position in Spherical Coordinates

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The discussion revolves around determining the position of a point in spherical coordinates relative to two spheres, A and B, with the origin at the center of sphere A. The user seeks to express the coordinates of a point r from both spheres, noting that if the origin were at B, the coordinates would differ. There is confusion regarding the calculations, particularly in part 3, leading to complex expressions that do not align with expected forms. Suggestions include defining a new angle at B and considering the midpoint of the line connecting the two spheres as the origin. The conversation emphasizes the need for clear diagrams and equations to resolve the issues encountered.
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Homework Statement


This is a bit hard to describe without a decent picture (or a decent brain) but try to bare with me.
Picture below shows two spheres, if the origin is at centre of A, and a line d joins the centre of the two spheres, how do I describe the position of a point r from each sphere in spherical coordinates?

------------------r---------
A
------O---------------------
-----------------------------
-------------------O--------
B

Homework Equations


Polar coordinates are in terms of r and Ø
The point r described from the origin (at A) is given by (rAA), where r is line from origin to point r.

The Attempt at a Solution


If origin was at B it would have coordinates (rBB) need to write these in terms of rA and ØA.
I think rB=rA+d and Ø=ØBA
 
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hi funcosed! :smile:

why are you doing this? is it part of something else? :confused:

easiest would be to define Ø = 0 through B :wink:

(and perhaps to take the origin at the midpoint of AB instead of at A, or at the centre of mass)
 


For why I am doing it see here http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtopic=28996"

Fairly sure I know what to do for most of the question but it doesn't seem to work out because the expression I get for part 3 is a mess which I think is because of the coordinates.
 
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funcosed said:

ah i see … there's a vertical and horizontal direction that have to be regarded as fixed
Fairly sure I know what to do for most of the question but it doesn't seem to work out because the expression I get for part 3 is a mess which I think is because of the coordinates.

the cosine and sine rules should do it …

perhaps you'd better show your work (and a diagram), so that we can see why it's a mess? :smile:

(of course, a mess might be the right answer! :wink:)
 
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Part.3
ψA(r,Θ) = (1/4)Ua2(3r/a - a/r)sin2Θ

ψ(r,Θ)B = (1/4)Ua2((3r+d)/a - a/r)sin2Θ

Using, ψ(r,Θ) = ψA + ψ(r,Θ)B
and U = Ur + UΘ
Ur = (1/r2sinΘ)∂ψ/∂Θ
UΘ = (-1/rsinΘ)∂ψ/∂r

I get,
U = 1/2(UcosΘ)(3a/r - a3/r3 + 3a/4r2)r - 1/4(UsinΘ)(3a/r + a3/r3 + 3a/4r)Θ

which doesn't really fit with the form given in the question i.e. there are no a/d terms.
 


and here's a link to a picture

http://www.picpanda.com/viewer.php?file=lxvhtadg5vbj1miuycda.png"
 
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sorry, I'm not following your equations at all :confused:
 
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