Potential difference: positive or negative?

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The discussion centers on the concept of potential difference and the definition of a test charge in an electric field. It is established that a test charge is always assumed to be positive by definition, which influences the determination of potential difference between two points. When evaluating potential difference, using a positive test charge leads to a negative potential difference if the source charge is positive. While it is possible to place a negative charge in an electric field, it cannot be considered a test charge in this context. Ultimately, the potential difference remains consistent regardless of the type of charge used, as it is defined by the relationship between electric field and work done.
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Why potential at a point can only be obtained by supposing/assuming a positive test charge there?
For example
There was a question
In figure two points A and B are located in a region of electric field.,The potential difference ##VB##-##VA## is
1-positive
2-Negative
3-zero
4-none of the above
the answer is 2-Negative
Apparently the source charge is positive
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we will only get the answer to be 2-Negative when we would assume positive test charge but if we assume negative test charge at A &B we are going to get answer 1-positive.So is it like we are bound to assume positive charge at points mentioned in question to get whether potential difference is positive or negative?
 
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Yes. The "test charge" is always positive, by definition.
 
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The figure shows the electric field lines.
How is the electric field at a point defined?
 
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ehild said:
How is the electric field at a point defined?
Force per unit charge.
The electric field
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at a given point is defined as the (vectorial) force
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that would be exerted on a stationary test particle of unit charge by electromagnetic forces
 
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And we are told to put negative charge there(in electric field ) in that case we can ,right?
 
gracy said:
And we are told to put negative charge there(in electric field ) in that case we can ,right?
You can put a negative charge into any electric field. Do it. And what do you do after?
 
ehild said:
You can put a negative charge into any electric field.
But it can not be called "test charge",right?
 
Correct. A test charge is always positive.
 
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The potential difference between points A and B (or any two points) does not depend on the test charge used. The relation is standard

V_B - V_A = - \int_A^B \overrightarrow{E}.d\overrightarrow{s}

You can use a negative or positive test charge and multiply both sides of the above relation with the charge. The equation will change to a relation between the difference of potential energies, and the work done by the electrostatic force. In case my Latex is not clear, there is a dot product between the electric field and the infinitesimal displacement in the integral, and the integral is over any path joining points A and B. It does not matter whether you "call" it a test charge or not. The fact is that you can use either positive or negative charges.
 
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