Power Check & Help: 120V Motor, 2.50hp Output, 3hr Operation

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A 120V motor with a mechanical power output of 2.50hp operates at 90% efficiency, leading to discussions on calculating current, energy delivered, and operational costs. The current was initially calculated as 17.08A, but a recalculation suggested 17.26A, prompting concerns about rounding errors. For energy delivered over 3 hours, calculations yielded 20.13MJ, while the book states 22.4MJ, indicating a potential oversight in accounting for efficiency. Participants emphasized the relationship between power and work, noting the importance of including efficiency in calculations. The discussion highlights the need for careful application of formulas and understanding of power dynamics in electrical systems.
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Homework Statement


A 120 V motor has a mechanical power output of 2.50hp It is 90% effiecient in converting power that it takes in by electrical transmission into mechanical power.

a) find current in motor
b) find energy delivered to the motor by electrical transmission in 3.00 h of operation
c) If the electrical company charges $0.160kWh what does it cost to run the motor for 3.00h?

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



a) find current in motor
P=I \Delta V

and I got

I= 17.08A

b) find energy delivered to the motor by electrical transmission in 3.00 h of operation

would I use this..
P \Delta t= I \Delta V ( \Delta t ) ?

Thanks
 
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a) I got 17.26A. Check for rounding errors.

b) What have you really done by multiplying both sides by \Delta t? Have you done anything?

You are on the right track, but executed wrong. Just remember how power and work are related.

P=\frac{dW}{dt}= \frac{\Delta W}{\Delta t}

Since power has no explicit time dependence we can take derivatives to deltas. Then just remember the work-energy theorem.
 
Mindscrape said:
a) I got 17.26A. Check for rounding errors.

I don't get it. It isn't rounding errors. I must have done something wrong in my calculations.
showing what I did, may help:
P= I \Delta V
I think I'm screwing up here when I have to find the power.
I looked up 2.50 horsepower and it was equal to 1864.24968 Watts and
since they said it had 90% efficiency I did this:

P= \frac{1864.24968W + (1864.24968 W)(.10)} {120V}= 17.08A
b) What have you really done by multiplying both sides by \Delta t? Have you done anything?

You are on the right track, but executed wrong. Just remember how power and work are related.

P=\frac{dW}{dt}= \frac{\Delta W}{\Delta t}

Since power has no explicit time dependence we can take derivatives to deltas. Then just remember the work-energy theorem.

If work incresaes then energy increases too. So if I'm not incorrect, I would just solve for W then and that would be the energy transfered?
thus...

P= \frac{\Delta W} {\Delta t}

\Delta W= P \Delta t = (1864.24968 watts)(3hr)= 5592.74w*hr(3600 J/ 1W*hr) = 20133864 J = 20.133864 MJ

I got that but the book has it as 22.4MJ so I'm not sure why I got the above answer.

Thanks
 
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a) So you know that P_e = IV and that P_m = .9 P_e. So then P_e = (10/9) P_m or (10/9) P_m = IV. Solving for I shows that I= (10/9) P_m/V. From here I just used the google calculator to do my conversions.

b) Careful. You forgot to account for the efficiency between the electric motor and the mechanical motor.
 
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