Power consumption of a human running

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the power consumption of a human running horizontally at a speed of 3 m/s, specifically focusing on a 70kg individual. Participants are exploring the relationship between force, work, and power in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to account for gravitational force and the movement of the center of mass during running. Questions arise about how to quantify the work done when the center of mass moves slightly up and down. There is also mention of the lack of sufficient information to calculate power accurately.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights about the complexities involved in calculating power consumption. Some suggest that typical data for energy expenditure might be necessary, while others emphasize the need to consider factors like air resistance and energy return during the running motion.

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Participants note that the problem may lack sufficient information for a complete analysis, and there are references to previous similar questions that might provide additional context.

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Homework Statement


If a 70kg man is running 3 m/s horizontally, how many watts is he consuming?


Homework Equations


W = N-m/s
N = mass*acceleration

The Attempt at a Solution


I would assume that in order to get the force in N one would use the gravitational constant of the Earth, but the man is moving in a horizontal line. Regardless, he is technically using work to move 'up' since his center of mass is going slightly up and down. How do I account for this, however?

Thank you.
 
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arkturus said:
I would assume that in order to get the force in N one would use the gravitational constant of the Earth, but the man is moving in a horizontal line. Regardless, he is technically using work to move 'up' since his center of mass is going slightly up and down. How do I account for this, however?
Unless you were given typical data for the energy (or force) demanded of a runner I don't think you are going to be able to answer this. Sure, he does lift his CoM during each step, but that energy is returned when he allows it to then fall, so no nett energy expenditure there.

I vaguely recall this same or a similar question from some months back, but I may be imagining things. https://www.physicsforums.com/images/icons/icon6.gif
 
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What he said. You do not have enough information to calculate the power.

If it was 3m/s vertically that would be a different matter. In that case the man is gaining Potential Energy at a known rate so you could calculate his minimum power output.

If the problem is homework or from a book perhaps type it in word for word?
 
he is technically using work to move 'up' since his center of mass is going slightly up and down.

however what he expends going "up" he gets back going "down". So it's only the "losses" that he incurs in the process that he has to provide. Plus air resistance etc.

In case it helps.. I remember reading that a fit person can produce about 250W for sustained periods. That's the sort of figure I think you have to assume when designing a man powered aircraft. Apparently it's easier to teach a racing cyclist to fly a plane than to train a pilot to produce the required power.
 

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