Power in the components of an RC circuit as a Function of time

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The discussion focuses on analyzing a simple RC circuit with an EMF source, resistor, and capacitor. Key equations for power in the resistor and battery are established, but the main challenge lies in determining the rate of energy stored in the capacitor. Suggestions for solving this include using conservation of energy, finding voltage drops across components, or integrating current to derive charge. The participant concludes that the energy not dissipated by the resistor is stored in the capacitor, affirming the approach to calculate power relationships. Overall, the equations for the resistor and battery are confirmed as correct.
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Homework Statement



A simple RC circuit with an EMF source ε, Resistor R and capacitor C are in series. When the switch is closed find the rate of energy stored in the capacitor, the power dissipated in the resistor, and the power supplied by the emf as functions of time.

Homework Equations


For the resistor

P=i2R

i=(ε/R)e-t/RCFor the battery

P=iε

i=(ε/R)e-t/RC

For the capacitor

q=CE(1-e-t/RC)

U=q2/(2C)

The Attempt at a Solution



I feel decent about the expressions I got for the resistor and the battery.

Pres=[(ε/R)e-t/RC]2R

Pbat=[(ε/R)e-t/RC]εThe problem I'm having is getting the energy rate in the capacitor. I tried to just use the energy equation from above and divide by time but I don't think it's right, It's undefined at t=0, and I need to evaluate these equations at that point in later steps.

I think I may need to plug it into the energy and then take the time derivative. Its pretty messy though, is there a better way?

[CE(1-e-t/RC)]2/(2Ct)

Thanks for any input
 

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physninj said:

Homework Statement



A simple RC circuit with an EMF source ε, Resistor R and capacitor C are in series. When the switch is closed find the rate of energy stored in the capacitor, the power dissipated in the resistor, and the power supplied by the emf as functions of time.

Homework Equations


For the resistor

P=i2R

i=(ε/R)e-t/RC


For the battery

P=iε

i=(ε/R)e-t/RC

For the capacitor

q=CE(1-e-t/RC)

U=q2/(2C)




The Attempt at a Solution



I feel decent about the expressions I got for the resistor and the battery.

Pres=[(ε/R)e-t/RC]2R

Pbat=[(ε/R)e-t/RC


The problem I'm having is getting the energy rate in the capacitor. I tried to just use the energy equation from above and divide by time but I don't think it's right, It's undefined at t=0, and I need to evaluate these equations at that point in later steps.

I think I may need to plug it into the energy and then take the time derivative. Its pretty messy though, is there a better way?

[CE(1-e-t/RC)]2/(2Ct)

Thanks for any input
There are several ways to find the rate of energy stored in the capacitor.

You can use conservation of energy. You know the power supplied by the battery (rate of work done by the battery). You know the power dissipated in the resistor. From those it's fairly direct to account for the rest of the energy.

Alternatively, you can find the voltage drop across the resistor as a function of time. From that you can find the voltage drop across the capacitor as a function of time. Use that with U = (1/2)V2C.

You can integrate the current to find the charge on the capacitor.

...
 
SammyS said:
There are several ways to find the rate of energy stored in the capacitor.

You can use conservation of energy. You know the power supplied by the battery (rate of work done by the battery). You know the power dissipated in the resistor. From those it's fairly direct to account for the rest of the energy.

Alternatively, you can find the voltage drop across the resistor as a function of time. From that you can find the voltage drop across the capacitor as a function of time. Use that with U = (1/2)V2C.

You can integrate the current to find the charge on the capacitor.

...

I see, because what's not dissipated by the resistor is stored in the capacitor. I think I will take that route.

So its just

Pemf-Presistor=Pcapacitor

My other equations look alright I'm assuming?Thanks a bunch.
 
physninj said:
I see, because what's not dissipated by the resistor is stored in the capacitor. I think I will take that route.

So its just

Pemf-Presistor=Pcapacitor

My other equations look alright I'm assuming?


Thanks a bunch.
Yes.

They look right.
 
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