Powering High Voltage LED from Low Voltage Source: Is it Possible?

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Powering a 29.3V LED with a 1.5V source is theoretically possible, but it requires careful consideration of current capacity and internal resistance. A DC-DC converter is necessary to step up the voltage, but the source must deliver sufficient power, approximately 12.9W, which translates to needing around 8.6A at 1.5V. The internal resistance of the battery is critical; a low-resistance cell or multiple cells in parallel may be needed to meet the current demands. Using a series configuration of batteries can help achieve the required voltage while managing the current output. Overall, while challenging, it is feasible with ideal components and proper circuit design.
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Wanting to know if it is possible to power a LED with a forward voltage of 29.3V and forward current of 440ma from a 1.5V source with a 2400mAh Capacity?

No particular need for this, more for challenge/knowledge. Have tried methods with a transformer, DC-DC converter, and lm350 constant current. So far I am not having any luck
 
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Are you talking ideal components or can you supply part numbers for real devices you want to use?

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It would depend on the current capacity (or internal resistance) of the source.
29.3V x 0.44A = 12.9W soyour power supply must deliver at least this plus energy wasted in converter inefficiency.
So your supply must deliver 12.9W / 1.5V = 8.6A plus current to cover inefficiency.
If you had a converter with say 75% efficiency, the current drain would need to be about 11.5A while maintaining 1.5V.
If the voltage drops with load current, as it usually does, then the needed current increases further.
This is the killer for you, as it means (I think*) you need a 1.5V cell with an internal resistance of less than 33mΩ. Maybe there is one, but I don't know about anything close.

* I reasoned that you need 12.9W at 75% efficiency = 17.2W.
The cell supplies maximum power when the load resistance equals the internal resistance and half the emf is across the internal R and half across the load.
So you get 0.75V output to give 17.2W = 23A. This is equivalent to a resistance of 0.75V/23A = 0.033Ω.
 
On second thoughts, you could achieve a very low internal resistance by paralleling many cells, so it's not a problem!
100 AA alkaline cells would probably get well below the requirement and give you more than 1200mAH.
 
Merlin3189 said:
paralleling many cells

In that case just put them in series until you get to the required voltage. Plan it right and you can use the series resistance of the cells for your limiting resistor.

helofrind said:
a 1.5V source with a 2400mAh Capacity

Sounds like a single lithium primary AA battery to me. The short answer on that is that no you can't light the specified LED with that battery. A strobe effect may be possible with the proper circuit.

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helofrind said:
I only need ideal components.

Then yes you certainly could run that led with an ideal 1.5V 2400mAh battery. Using and ideal step up supply you will get 1000 seconds of run time. This set up is often used for finding your spherical cows at night.

BoB
 
I forgot to consider internal resistance of battery, been using bench power supply at 1.5 V with 3 amp limiter.
 
helofrind said:
Wanting to know if it is possible to power a LED with a forward voltage of 29.3V and forward current of 440ma from a 1.5V source with a 2400mAh Capacity?

Merlin3189 said:
So your supply must deliver 12.9W / 1.5V = 8.6A...

..and a 2400mAH could supply that for about 16mins.

If you need longer it would be better to use more cells in series than in parallel.
 
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