Main Question or Discussion Point
In two months, there will be presidential elections in France. Who's your favorite ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Sarkozy (May 6, 2007)After 2 rounds of voting, Sarkozy has been elected to the Presidency of the Republic in the 2007 election runoff vote, held on May 6. He will succeed Jacques Chirac as President on May 16.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/05/06/france.election/index.htmlConservative Nicolas Sarkozy was elected Sunday to a five-year term as France's president with 53 percent of the vote, projections for France's state-run network France 2 said.
No, that would simply be impossible, even if all the vote not counted yet would be in favor of Royal.What? Where did you hear this? That would be quite a turn around in the last few moments of counting.
and what are those core values ?Sarkozy will deconstruct France, destroy its core values,
anti immigrant bashing ? What on earth is that ?making it another pawn in the international globalist agenda with plenty of anti-immigrant bashing and other rhetoric.
A 35-hour week ? :rofl: Look at economic reality. 35 hours is NOTHING and ofcourse that needs to be altered to a higher value. Did you not follow 1 % of the economic evolution in Europe ?I heard Sarkozy is already trying to end the 35-hour work week -- however, maybe if he is bad enough before the Parliamentary election, the French will vote in a Parliament that will restrain him.
Rubbish, he was elected by majority vote. That is it.Obviously democracy is dying in France like it has here in the US.
So was Hitler. And no, that's not a fallacy. Of course he was elected by majority vote, but that doesn't mean Democracy isn't dying, orbitalpower was talking about all the other little bits that make democracy work, not just the voting part which is imho a minor aspect of democracy.Rubbish, he was elected by majority vote. That is it.
YES that's a fallacy because although Hitler was elected in a "democratic way" (which cannot be compared to today's election process in Western Europe) his reign was far from democratic. Sarkozy still has to begin that stage so you cannot compare that. That is why it is wrong to bring in Hitler.So was Hitler. And no, that's not a fallacy.
On a party level he actually was elected to the position of Führer of the Nazi Party with dictatorial powers by 543 votes for and only one against. He had threatened to resign from the party if they didn't give him the powers he wanted.Not to mention Hitler was never elected to the position he ended up in when he declared himself dictator.
That really isn't very unusual even in functioning democracies especially in european democracies.I mean that he was never elected as head of state. The position of Chancellor was the head of the government, but the president head of state. When Hindenburg died, Hitler declared himself in charge. Granted, a referendum was passed legitimizing the appointment, but he never ran in an election against anyone. In fact, even Chancellor was an appointed position he was never elected to.