What pressure is needed to maintain flow when the pipe diameter is halved?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between pressure and flow in a pipe when the diameter is halved. Participants explore the implications of this change on flow rate, pressure drop, and friction factors, considering both frictional and non-frictional scenarios.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the friction factor in the pressure drop formula changes when the pipe diameter is halved.
  • Another participant questions how the friction factor changes and what happens if friction is ignored.
  • A participant explains that halving the diameter results in a quadrupling of flow speed and Reynolds number, which affects the friction factor, and mentions a significant increase in pressure drop if friction is ignored.
  • One participant expresses that with increased velocity, pressure will drop inside the thinner tube and poses questions about maintaining pressure and flow rate.
  • A later reply suggests that there may be misunderstandings regarding the implications of the links shared in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus, as there are multiple competing views regarding the effects of diameter reduction on pressure and flow, and the role of friction is debated.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the dependence on friction factors and the implications of ignoring friction, but do not resolve the mathematical steps involved in calculating pressure changes.

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Individuals interested in fluid dynamics, engineering applications, and those studying the effects of pipe geometry on flow characteristics may find this discussion relevant.

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Hello!

You apply a pressure to a pipe to maintain a specific flow.

If the pipe diameter becomes half, how much pressure you need to apply to maintain the flow?

Thanks!
 
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How does the friction factor changes?
Also, what if we ignore friction?
 
For half the diameter at the same flow the speed quadruples (assuming pipe is filled with the fluid under consideration), so the Reynolds number quadruples too. That has an effect on the friction factor (see link). If you ignore that, you still have (see second link) a factor ##v^2/D = 32## increase in pressure drop over the pipe.

(Did you look at the links I gave? Understand them ?)

Ignoring friction/viscous effects altogether leads to ##\Delta p=0## which isn't appropriate, I would guess.
 
So, as I expected, the velocity will increase and the pressure will drop inside the thinner tube.

The question is:
- if we maintain the pressure at the beginning of the tube, what will happen to the flow rate?
- similarly, if we maintain the flow rate, how should we adjust the pressure at the beginning of the tube?
 
BvU said:
(Did you look at the links I gave? Understand them ?)
There must be something that isn't clear to you is my impression when I read your post #5.
 

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