Principal frequencies of a Waveform

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The discussion revolves around identifying the principal frequencies in a current waveform and calculating total harmonic distortion (THD) based on those frequencies. Participants explore the definitions and calculations related to harmonic analysis, including the use of FFT and the implications of different frequency components.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant identifies principal frequencies at 52Hz, 246Hz, and 351Hz, questioning the definition of "principal frequency."
  • Another participant suggests that principal frequencies may correspond to the peaks in the spectrum drawing.
  • There is confusion regarding the calculation of total harmonic distortion (THD), with participants discussing the correct interpretation of the formula and the variables involved.
  • Some participants assert that the principal frequency is the largest peak, while others suggest it is the fundamental frequency with distortion frequencies being the others.
  • Disagreement arises over the correct application of the THD formula, particularly regarding the use of sum of squares versus the square of the sum.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the meaning of "nth harmonic" and how to apply it in calculations.
  • One participant mentions simulating the original waveform using LT spice and discusses the challenges of replicating the waveform through Fourier synthesis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the definition of principal frequencies or the correct method for calculating total harmonic distortion. Multiple competing views on these topics remain, with ongoing debate about the appropriate formulas and interpretations.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the waveform and the nature of the data provided. Some participants express uncertainty about the interpretation of the spectral data and the implications for THD calculations.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students and practitioners interested in waveform analysis, harmonic distortion calculations, and the application of Fourier analysis in electrical engineering contexts.

  • #61
Using 16 = 96.89%
Using 15.878 = 97.26%

Both obviously equate to 97% but Just wondering if there was something I'd missed about needing to round up a fundamental or something
 
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  • #62
Grappled with this for a few days and I'm happy I've got the answer. It's done using 15.878.

For part iv) I changed the 3 magnitudes to rms values ((square root of magnitude)x0.707). I then used the formula:

Amplitude(rms)*sin(2pi x f x t)

in 3 separate columns in excel (for each frequency and it's associated rms magnitude) and just dragged the formulas down to complete the 1024 entries. I then summed all of the 3 entries, created another column for time(s) and then inserted a scatter graph to synthesis the original waveform. Only did it over a short time period though as the graph wouldn't accept all 1024 entries.

(To get the formula to drag down I had to lock some of the fields when writing the formula with the $ sign) e.g. $b$2*sin(2pi*$a$3*a8)).
 
  • #63
HDG said:
Grappled with this for a few days and I'm happy I've got the answer. It's done using 15.878.

For part iv) I changed the 3 magnitudes to rms values ((square root of magnitude)x0.707). I then used the formula:

Amplitude(rms)*sin(2pi x f x t)

in 3 separate columns in excel (for each frequency and it's associated rms magnitude) and just dragged the formulas down to complete the 1024 entries. I then summed all of the 3 entries, created another column for time(s) and then inserted a scatter graph to synthesis the original waveform. Only did it over a short time period though as the graph wouldn't accept all 1024 entries.

(To get the formula to drag down I had to lock some of the fields when writing the formula with the $ sign) e.g. $b$2*sin(2pi*$a$3*a8)).

Hi HDG,

Did you get the question correct? I got a final answer also of 97.271%

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How did you select the fields to create the scattergraph?

Thanks for any help!
 

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