Probability for a non-hermitian hamiltonian

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The discussion revolves around a non-hermitian Hamiltonian in quantum mechanics, specifically focusing on the implications of a potential that includes both real and imaginary components. The original poster attempts to derive the conservation of probability and explore how the total probability of finding a particle decreases over time.

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  • Participants discuss the definition of total probability in quantum mechanics and its relation to the Hamiltonian. There are attempts to manipulate the Schrödinger equation and consider the implications of the non-hermitian nature of the potential. Questions arise regarding the behavior of the probability over time and the role of the imaginary component of the potential.

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Some participants have offered guidance on how to approach the problem, suggesting the use of specific definitions and manipulations of the wave function. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the non-hermitian potential, with participants questioning the assumptions made in the original poster's approach.

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There is a recognition that the potential is non-hermitian, which affects the conservation of probability. Participants are also considering whether the imaginary part of the potential is constant and how it influences the calculations being discussed.

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Homework Statement


Given a non-hermitian hamiltonian with V = (Re)V -i(Im)V. By deriving the conservation of probability, it can be shown that the total probability of finding a system/particle decreases exponentially as e(-2*ImV*t)/ħ

Homework Equations


Schrödinger Eqn, conservation of probability (∂P/∂t = -∇⋅j), P is the probability and j is the probability current density, Re V is the real part of V while I am V is the imaginary part of V

The Attempt at a Solution


It is known that ∫∫∫ P d3r = constant, that is ,the total probability for finding the particle should be constant throughout the universe.

iħ ∂ψ/∂t = -ħ2/2m ∇2ψ + Vψ = -ħ2/2m ∇2ψ + (Re)Vψ -i(Im)Vψ
By taking the complex conjugate, we have
-iħ ∂ψ*/∂t = -ħ2/2m ∇2ψ* +V*ψ* = -ħ2/2m ∇2ψ* + (Re)Vψ* +i(Im)Vψ*
By multiplying by ψ* the first equation and by ψ the second equation then subtracting the second from the first, we have
iħ ∂(ψψ*)/∂t = -ħ2/2m (ψ*∇2ψ-ψ∇2ψ*) - 2i (Im)V ψψ* = -∇⋅j - 2i (Im)V ψψ*

I don't know where to go already from here. Any suggestions or hints?
 
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Just use the definition of total probability in quantum mechanics: ##\langle \psi(t) | \psi(t) \rangle##. Now ##|\psi(t)\rangle = e^{-iVt/\hbar} |\psi(0)\rangle##. What will you get then when calculating ##\langle \psi(t) | \psi(t) \rangle##?
 
blue_leaf77 said:
Just use the definition of total probability in quantum mechanics: ##\langle \psi(t) | \psi(t) \rangle##. Now ##|\psi(t)\rangle = e^{-iVt} |\psi(0)\rangle##. What will you get then when calculating ##\langle \psi(t) | \psi(t) \rangle##?
I will get ⟨ψ(t)|ψ(t)⟩ = ⟨ψ(0)|ψ(0)⟩ but what does this tell me? Also, I need to use the conservation of probability equation to derive the question.
 
shinobi20 said:
I will get ⟨ψ(t)|ψ(t)⟩ = ⟨ψ(0)|ψ(0)⟩ but what does this tell me?
No, you won't because in this problem ##V## is not Hermitian. Try plugging in ##V = \textrm{Re}[V] - i \textrm{Im}[V]##.
 
blue_leaf77 said:
No, you won't because in this problem ##V## is not Hermitian. Try plugging in ##V = \textrm{Re}[V] - i \textrm{Im}[V]##.
Sorry, I forgot that it is not hermitian, so we will get e2i(Im)Vt
 
It will be ##\langle \psi(0) |e^{-i\textrm{Im}[V]t/\hbar}| \psi(0) \rangle##, at this point we should know how ##\textrm{Im}[V]## acts on ##| \psi(0) \rangle##, i.e. whether it is a function of space at all. But since the question asks you to prove that "decreases exponentially as e(-2*ImV*t)/ħ", I think it is implied that ##\textrm{Im}[V]## is a constant and thus the sandwiched exponential operator may be taken out.
 
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blue_leaf77 said:
It will be ##\langle \psi(0) |e^{-i\textrm{Im}[V]t/\hbar}| \psi(0) \rangle##, at this point we should how ##\textrm{Im}[V]## acts on ##| \psi(0) \rangle##, i.e. whether it is a function of space at all. But since the question asks you to prove that "decreases exponentially as e(-2*ImV*t)/ħ", I think it is implied that ##\textrm{Im}[V]## is a constant and thus the sandwiched exponential operator may be taken out.
Oh! I did something wrong when taking the complex conjugate of V, but anyways, you really cleared everything. Thanks!
 

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