Probability of current flow through circuit

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The discussion revolves around calculating the probability of current flow through a circuit with multiple relays, each having a defined probability of closing independently. The original poster presents specific probabilities for each relay and seeks assistance in determining the overall probability of current flow between two points in the circuit.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to break down the problem into events representing current flow and expresses uncertainty about applying the union of probabilities for multiple events. Some participants suggest using the inclusion-exclusion principle to address the calculation of probabilities for multiple events, while others propose using conditional probabilities as an alternative approach.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on different mathematical principles that could be applied to the problem. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet, as the original poster continues to seek clarification on how to apply these principles effectively.

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The original poster indicates a specific focus on part B of the problem and has broken down the events into four distinct cases. There may be constraints related to the complexity of calculating probabilities for more than three events, which is a point of confusion for some participants.

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The probability of the closing of the ith relay in the circuits shown is given by p_i. Let p_1 = 0.9, p_2 = 0.6, p_3 = 0.1, p_4 = 0.7, p_5 = 0.2. If all relays function independently. what is the probability that a current flows between A and B for the respective circuits?

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The Attempt at a Solution



I am working on the circuit in part B. I broke down the problem into 4 events in which the current could flow through the circuit. I labeled them A, B, C and D. I know that the problem is just P(AUBUCUD), but I do not know how to do a union for 4 events. Can someone please help?
 
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LCKurtz said:
You need the inclusion-exclusion principle:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclusion-exclusion_principle

and scroll down the "In Probability" section.

- That is what I tried using actually, but I guess I'm not quite sure how to set up the formula once you get past 3 events.
 
Try just using a chain of conditional probabilities. Let:
C = event that current flows
s1 = event switch 1 is closed
s2 = event switch 2 is closed etc.

So you could start like this:

P(C) = P(C|s1)P(s1) + P(C|s2)P(s2) = P(C|s1)(.9) + P(C|s2)(.6)

Now to calculate P(C|s1) condition it on s3 and s4 and fill in what you know. Keep going like that.
 

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