Probability of finding a system an eigenstate

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The discussion centers on a quantum mechanics homework problem involving a system with two stationary states and a perturbation. The key challenge is calculating the probability of finding the system in the excited state |2> after a perturbation is applied, given the initial state is |1>. Participants express confusion regarding the perturbation matrix elements and the application of non-degenerate perturbation theory, which has not been covered in class. Clarifications are sought on how to construct the Hamiltonian and determine the probability coefficients necessary for the solution. Understanding the matrix representations of the Hamiltonian is essential for solving the problem effectively.
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Homework Statement



As the homework problem is written exactly:
Consider the quantum mechanical system with only two stationary states |1> and |2> and energies E0 and 3E0, respectively. At t=0, the system is in the ground state and a constant perturbation <1|V|2>=<2|V|1>=E0 is switched on. Calculate the probability of finding the system in the state |2>.

Homework Equations


H=V (I'm just assuming these states must be such that there is no kinetic energy and E=V, but that's just my guess - professor lacks communication skills at times).

|c1|2 + |c2|2 = 1
P(|2>)=|c2|2 (thus, I need c2 to solve the problem!)

The Attempt at a Solution


Well, I'm completely confused as to why he gave us <1|V|2>=<2|V|1>=E0, what that even means, and where I'm supposed to retrieve the probability coefficients which is all I need to solve the problem.
 
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krobben92 said:

Homework Statement



As the homework problem is written exactly:
Consider the quantum mechanical system with only two stationary states |1> and |2> and energies E0 and 3E0, respectively. At t=0, the system is in the ground state and a constant perturbation <1|V|2>=<2|V|1>=E0 is switched on. Calculate the probability of finding the system in the state |2>.

Homework Equations


H=V (I'm just assuming these states must be such that there is no kinetic energy and E=V, but that's just my guess - professor lacks communication skills at times).

|c1|2 + |c2|2 = 1
P(|2>)=|c2|2 (thus, I need c2 to solve the problem!)

The Attempt at a Solution


Well, I'm completely confused as to why he gave us <1|V|2>=<2|V|1>=E0, what that even means, and where I'm supposed to retrieve the probability coefficients which is all I need to solve the problem.
Hi there!

Have you learned non degenerate perturbation theory? This is the formalism required to do this problem. What formula have you seen for perturbation theory?
 
No, at least not that I know of. I'm familiar with chapters 1-4 in Griffiths, if that helps.
 
Also you are given the complete information about the unperturbed Hamiltonian!
 
vanhees71 said:
Also you are given the complete information about the unperturbed Hamiltonian!

Right, I get that I have all of the matrix elements of the Hamiltonian, but I'm not sure how that's going to help me determine that probability of finding the system in state |2>. Also, we've never covered non degenerate perturbation theory, so is there another more elementary way to solve this problem?
 
krobben92 said:

Homework Statement



As the homework problem is written exactly:
Consider the quantum mechanical system with only two stationary states |1> and |2> and energies E0 and 3E0, respectively. At t=0, the system is in the ground state and a constant perturbation <1|V|2>=<2|V|1>=E0 is switched on. Calculate the probability of finding the system in the state |2>.

Homework Equations


H=V (I'm just assuming these states must be such that there is no kinetic energy and E=V, but that's just my guess - professor lacks communication skills at times).
No, this isn't right. You add V to the existing Hamiltonian, so H=H0+V. What are the matrix representations of H0, V, and H? You should be able to figure out the rest from there.

|c1|2 + |c2|2 = 1
P(|2>)=|c2|2 (thus, I need c2 to solve the problem!)

The Attempt at a Solution


Well, I'm completely confused as to why he gave us <1|V|2>=<2|V|1>=E0, what that even means, and where I'm supposed to retrieve the probability coefficients which is all I need to solve the problem.
 
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