Probablities from wave function

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The discussion revolves around calculating the probability of a particle in a box being between specific positions when in the second excited state. The integral to evaluate is set up correctly, but the user encounters issues with the sine function evaluations leading to incorrect conclusions about the probability being zero. A correction is pointed out regarding the grouping of terms in the integral evaluation, suggesting that the sine functions should not be factored out incorrectly. The final probability calculation should yield a non-zero value, specifically 2/3, indicating a misunderstanding in the integration process. The conversation highlights the importance of careful algebraic manipulation in quantum mechanics problems.
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Homework Statement


P = \int_a^b \, \left| \psi(x) \right|^2 \, dx

If the particle in the box is in the second excited state (i.e., n=3), what is the probability P that it is between x=L/3 and x=L? To find this probability, you will need to evaluate the integral:

\int_{L/3}^L \left(\sqrt{\frac{2}{L}} \sin \left( \frac{n \pi x}{L} \right) \right)^2 \, dx = \frac{2}{L} \int_{L/3}^L \sin^2 \left( \frac{n \pi x}{L} \right) \, dx .

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This one I think.
<br /> * \int \sin^2(kx) dx = \frac{x}{2} - \frac{1}{4k} \sin(2 k x) +C, and<br />

The Attempt at a Solution


Set k = n(pi)/L or np/L

[2/L][(x/2 - 1/4k)sin(2kx)]|L and L/3

put k back in as it is.

[2/L]{[L/2 - L/4np]sin(2*np/L*L)]-[L/3*2 - L/4np]sin(2 * np/L * L/3)]}

cancel out the L's and plug-in n = 3

2{[(1/2 - 1/12p)sin(6p)] - [(1/6) - (1/12p)]sin(2p)]}

well the answer isn't 0. but sin6p and sin2p both equal 0
2[0 - 0] = 0

Where did I go wrong?
 
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sin^2(kx) = [1-cos(2kx)]/2. Now can you integrate directly?
 
doesn't seem like it... integrating the cos(2kx) part just gives me a sin function again and again I get an integer times pi within leading to more 0. right?
 
(I had merely showed you how to evaluate the integral sin^2(kx), for which you have already written the formula.)

Anyway, you have done this mistake:
2{[(1/2 - 1/12p)sin(6p)] - [(1/6) - (1/12p)]sin(2p)]} = 2{(1/2) - (1/6)} = 2/3.
 
What is mean probability is zero?
 
It looks like you mistakenly are grouping the sine function of your integral outside the difference from your integral formula: (u-v)sin(w) should be (u - v sin(w) ).
 
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