Probably a rather easy Algebra problem that I am not getting

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The problem involves solving the equation \(\sqrt{9+4\sqrt{5}}=\sqrt{a}+\sqrt{b}\) for ordered pairs (a,b). By squaring both sides, the equation simplifies to two separate equations: \(a+b=9\) and \(2\sqrt{ab}=4\sqrt{5}\). Solving these equations leads to a quadratic equation, yielding the solutions \(b=4\) or \(b=5\). Substituting back gives the ordered pairs (5,4) and (4,5). This method emphasizes breaking down complex problems into manageable parts for clarity.
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If \sqrt{9+4\sqrt{5}}=\sqrt{a}+\sqrt{b}, find all ordered pairs (a,b)

The equation looks hauntingly like a elliptic curve, so I tried that but it didnt really help. I tried just simplifing it, but it got really messy really fast. Can someone please help?
 
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Hi there,

I can understand why this problem may seem difficult at first glance. However, there is a simple approach that can help you solve it.

First, let's start by squaring both sides of the equation:

(\sqrt{9+4\sqrt{5}})^2=(\sqrt{a}+\sqrt{b})^2

This gives us:

9+4\sqrt{5}=a+b+2\sqrt{ab}

Now, we can see that the left side of the equation only contains a constant and a square root, while the right side contains both constants and a square root. This suggests that we can separate the equation into two parts: one with the constant and one with the square root.

So, we can set up a system of equations:

a+b=9 (equation 1)
2\sqrt{ab}=4\sqrt{5} (equation 2)

From equation 1, we can see that a=9-b. Substituting this into equation 2, we get:

2\sqrt{(9-b)b}=4\sqrt{5}

Squaring both sides again, we get:

4(9-b)b=80

Simplifying, we get:

b^2-9b+20=0

Solving for b, we get b=4 or b=5. Substituting these values back into equation 1, we get a=5 or a=4.

Therefore, the ordered pairs (a,b) are (5,4) and (4,5).

I hope this helps and clears up any confusion. Remember, always try to simplify the problem and break it down into smaller parts. Good luck!
 
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