Problem about tangent plane to surface

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The problem involves finding points on the surface defined by the equation x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = 7 where the tangent plane is parallel to a given plane described by the equation 2x + 4y + 6z = 1. The context is centered around the concepts of tangent planes and normal vectors in three-dimensional geometry.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the normal vectors of the surface and the plane, noting that parallel planes have normal vectors that are scalar multiples of each other. There is an exploration of the implications of the infinite solutions derived from the cross product of the normal vectors.

Discussion Status

The discussion has progressed with participants providing insights into the geometric interpretation of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider the specific points on the surface, and the importance of the sphere's radius in relation to the tangent planes.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the points must satisfy the surface equation, and there is an acknowledgment of the infinite solutions arising from the parallel condition, which requires further constraints to identify specific points on the surface.

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Homework Statement



find the points on the surface x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = 7 where its tangent plane is parallel to 2x + 4y + 6z = 1

Homework Equations


Equation of a tangent plane:

fx(x - x0) + fy(y - y0) + fz(z - z0) = 0, where fx means partial derivative of f respect to x
n1 X n2 = 0

The Attempt at a Solution


Two planes are parallel if the cross product of their normal vectors is zero. The normal vector of the surface is its gradient, that is: n1 = 2x i + 2y j + 2z k and the normal vector of the plane is
n2 = 2 i + 4 j + 6 k.

when I do n1 X n2 and equal it to zero, i get a system of 3 equations:

12y -8 z = 0, -12x + 4z = 0, 8x - 4y = 0, but it has a infinity number of solutions (y = 2x, z = 3x). what am I doing wrong?

the solutions according to the book is: (1/sqrt(2), sqrt(2), 3/sqrt(2) ) and (-1/sqrt(2), -sqrt(2), -3/sqrt(2)

Thanks in advance
 
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The points have to be on the surface, so x,y,z fulfil also the equation x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = 7.

ehild
 
Hi Supermiedos
You get an infinity of answers because you just solved the fact that 2 planes should be // to each others
Now you have to put them at specific points
Look at the first equation, it's a sphere with radius √7
So you know that for whichever plane you can think of, there will always be 2 planes // to some reference plane that happen to be at distance √7 from the origin
The second equation gives you the orthogonal vector of the plane, (2, 4, 6)
it really doesn't matter where the plane is, you just care about the direction
so imagine being at the origin, you have a given 'direction' (normalize this vector, it has norm=√14) and you want to 'hit the sphere' at two points, and those should be the one you are expecting
 
Thank you so much ehild and oli4. I tought I "involved" the sphere by using its gradient, but that was not enough of course. I solved it now and I got the answer. :)
 

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