Problem involving Coulombs Law; suspended masses

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The discussion revolves around deriving the equation for the charge q of two suspended point particles using Coulomb's Law and considering the forces acting on them. The initial approach led to confusion due to a negative sign in the equation, which was resolved by recognizing the importance of the tension force in the threads. Participants emphasized the need to account for both horizontal and vertical components of the forces acting on the particles. Ultimately, the correct expression for q was obtained after including the tension force in the calculations. The thread highlights the significance of vector analysis in solving problems involving forces.
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Two point particles, each of mass m and charge q are suspended from a common point by threads of length L. Each thread makes an angle \theta with the vertical. (I attached a diagram to help).

I must show that
q=2L\sin\theta\sqrt{\frac{mg}{k}\tan\theta}

I start out by writing the force sum in the coordinate system, and then I solve for q:

0=mg+k\frac{q^2}{R^2}

=mg+k\frac{q^2}{4L^2\sin^2\theta}

q^2=-4L^2\sin^2\theta\frac{mg}{k}

I'm confused by the negative sign, if I ignore it I get:

q=2L\sin\theta\sqrt{\frac{mg}{k}}

The \tan\theta is missing in my solution.
 

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adkinje said:
I start out by writing the force sum in the coordinate system, and then I solve for q:

0=mg+k\frac{q^2}{R^2}
Forces are vectors--direction matters. Hint: Consider the horizontal and vertical components of the forces.

Don't forget the tension force exerted by the thread.
 
Doc Al said:
Forces are vectors--direction matters. Hint: Consider the horizontal and vertical components of the forces.

Don't forget the tension force exerted by the thread.


lol, DUH the tension! I can't believe I left that one out. I pulled it togther and obtained the given expression. Thanks for your help.
 
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