Problem sets for Young and Freedman University Physics (Y&F)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around self-study using the Young and Freedman University Physics textbook, focusing on the challenges of working through problem sets, particularly in Chapter 5. Participants express their experiences with the difficulty of problems, seek advice on which problems to prioritize, and consider alternative textbooks.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Homework-related
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions feeling overwhelmed by the number of problems in Chapter 5 and questions the difficulty level as they progress.
  • Another participant suggests that if problems are taking too long, it may indicate a lack of understanding of the underlying physics, recommending a careful re-reading of the text.
  • Some participants share their time estimates for solving problems, noting that it can take around 15 minutes per problem, but express frustration with the pace of progress.
  • There is a suggestion to limit the number of problems tackled, with one participant proposing a focus on about 40 problems to avoid feeling discouraged.
  • One participant references MIT OpenCourseWare as a resource for problem sets, indicating that they include a mix of original and textbook problems.
  • Another participant mentions that the answer key for Kleppner and Kolenkow requires knowledge of higher-level calculus, which may be a consideration for those thinking of switching textbooks.
  • There is a discussion about the importance of understanding concepts rather than just memorizing problem-solving techniques, with a recommendation to approach problems of varying difficulty strategically.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of experiences and strategies regarding problem-solving, with no clear consensus on the best approach or which problems to prioritize. Some participants agree on the challenges of pacing and understanding, while others offer differing views on how to effectively study.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention varying levels of familiarity with calculus, which may affect their ability to tackle certain problems. There is also uncertainty about the specific problem sets recommended for study.

Otto D.
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In the last year, I took a few Mooc online and I felt like my Physics was a bit rusty. So, I found myself a copy of Young and Freedman University Physics (13th edition) to do some self-study. The thing is, there is so many problems to do, I think that I’m on chapter 5 since the beginning of May. I try to skip the one dotted problems and the Bio problems (there’s always someone badly injured, in those problems, and it seems to hurt really bad), but still I am only at problem 92 (of 127). I must say, I’m a bit tired of chapter 5, and the more problems I do, the worst I get, it seems like. I suspect, they are getting more difficult though.

So I was wondering, does anyone know where I could find a set list of problems I should (or must) do?

Someone could maybe suggest me some problems.

Or maybe, I was thinking about switching to Kleppner and Kolenkow, but I don’t know if there’s an answer book and starting all over again would be a bit discouraging.
 
Otto D. said:
In the last year, I took a few Mooc online and I felt like my Physics was a bit rusty. So, I found myself a copy of Young and Freedman University Physics (13th edition) to do some self-study. The thing is, there is so many problems to do, I think that I’m on chapter 5 since the beginning of May. I try to skip the one dotted problems and the Bio problems (there’s always someone badly injured, in those problems, and it seems to hurt really bad), but still I am only at problem 92 (of 127). I must say, I’m a bit tired of chapter 5, and the more problems I do, the worst I get, it seems like. I suspect, they are getting more difficult though.

So I was wondering, does anyone know where I could find a set list of problems I should (or must) do?
Someone could maybe suggest me some problems.

Or maybe, I was thinking about switching to Kleppner and Kolenkow, but I don’t know if there’s an answer book and starting all over again would be a bit discouraging.

There is an answer key in the back for KK, however it requires knowledge of calculus 2. Calculus 3 is prefered.

It should take you no more than 15 min on a problem, maybe an hour for 3 star problems. Although there are a few problems that can take a day.

If it is taking you a long time to do the problems, then you are not understanding the actual physics. A careful Re read of the txt should be in order, when this occurs repeatedly.
 
I don't have my copy around but I do recall that there are a lot of exercises in there.

On MIT opencourseware there are in fact problem sets http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-01l-physics-i-classical-mechanics-fall-2005/syllabus/
I haven't looked for an introductory E&M course but that might be on there as well.

You can see the assignments are a mix of original problems and textbook problems.

Edit;
I checked if they use your book for E&M but unfortunately they don't.
In a couple of days I can check my own book to see if there are must-do exercises in there.
Tag me if I forget which is a possibility since my finals will be done.
 
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I would say that it takes me around 15 minutes to do one problems. But with 117 problems to do, it means spending 32 hours on the problems of one chapter. At around one hour a day, you feel like (or at least, I feel like) at that pace you’re never going to reach the end. When you think that in a real college class, where the pace may be a little too fast, they will do the whole mechanic part in 15 weeks, it’s a bit discouraging. That's why I would like to limit myself to maybe 40 problems. (and maybe avoid the really tough ones that makes you feel like an idiot.)

From what I rememeber MIT courseware use the 11th edition.
 
Otto D. said:
I would say that it takes me around 15 minutes to do one problems. But with 117 problems to do, it means spending 32 hours on the problems of one chapter. At around one hour a day, you feel like (or at least, I feel like) at that pace you’re never going to reach the end. When you think that in a real college class, where the pace may be a little too fast, they will do the whole mechanic part in 15 weeks, it’s a bit discouraging. That's why I would like to limit myself to maybe 40 problems. (and maybe avoid the really tough ones that makes you feel like an idiot.)

From what I rememeber MIT courseware use the 11th edition.

Do good problems not problems that are not the same. I will use calculus for example. Many students approach calculus how they did algebra, ie by doing all the problems. This is not a smart way of studying. Learn concepts not memorization of problems. Yes you have to problem solve, however, when you are doing problems, do a few easy ones, then some intermediate ones, then some hard. Be wise on your choices. Then ask yourself do you understand? Analyze your solutions, we're you got stuck how u succeed, and ask is there a better way?
 

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